Camaro Z/28 Laps Nurburgring in 7:37.40
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I love how the new cars are tested with the 1 foot of rollout to help get better 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. The new 1LE is not a mid 12 second car even with the 1 foot roll out BS. I remember LS1's hitting high 12's as well which is about as good as a stock 5th gen gets with the LS3.
#17
Re: Camaro Z/28 Laps Nurburgring in 7:37.40
I love how the new cars are tested with the 1 foot of rollout to help get better 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. The new 1LE is not a mid 12 second car even with the 1 foot roll out BS. I remember LS1's hitting high 12's as well which is about as good as a stock 5th gen gets with the LS3.
Boss 302 goes up against the 1LE. Ford doesn't have a Z/28 counterpart.
#18
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I love how the new cars are tested with the 1 foot of rollout to help get better 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. The new 1LE is not a mid 12 second car even with the 1 foot roll out BS. I remember LS1's hitting high 12's as well which is about as good as a stock 5th gen gets with the LS3.
#19
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I love how the new cars are tested with the 1 foot of rollout to help get better 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. The new 1LE is not a mid 12 second car even with the 1 foot roll out BS. I remember LS1's hitting high 12's as well which is about as good as a stock 5th gen gets with the LS3.
With all conditions being identical, the LS1 simply will not keep up with the new LS3 Camaro. Sure, you may have gotten a 12 second out of you LS1 (and I'm assuming we're talking NO modifications whatsoever...not even an aftermarket air filter, right?), but under the exact same conditions, stock versus stock, no contest. If you do have modifications on an LS1, applying the same modifications to the newer SS will still result in the car being quicker.
#20
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Development was completed when the GT500 made its last ring run. They thought they were going for a victory lap, and realized they couldn't hang, so they kept the times secret.
-Geoff
#21
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Not bitter at all just seeing the same pattern all the time, Ford releases a car that beats Chevy then Chevy responds in 2-3 years. What Camaro is beating the Mustang hands down? Mustang V6 is quicker than the Camaro V6, Mustang Gt is faster than the Camaro SS, Shelby Gt500 is faster than the ZL1. Z28 is made to compete against what? If the Boss Mustang than they are a few years late since they haven't made them for 2 years and they didn't cost $70k+. It's not bitter when you are stating facts, I've owned 3 Camaro's but some of you guys just seem to have blinders on all the freaking time when it comes to anything but the Camaro.
-Geoff
#22
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So which Camaro is faster than it's mustang counterpart? Base V6 Mustang faster, V8 Mustang faster, GT500 is faster. Funny how the roles are completely reversed from 11 years ago when the Camaro was faster in every regard and the Mustang guys could only brag about their "sales" being better. About the only bragging rights the Camaro has now are in handling and I can't remember ever hearing anyone on the street bragging about how they outhandled their opponent but I do know they want to know who will be in front when the light turns green. So keep bragging about handling, Nurinburg ring times, and sales but the mustang is simply faster in every model compared to the camaro. The Mustang never went away due to low sales.
#23
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So which Camaro is faster than it's mustang counterpart? Base V6 Mustang faster, V8 Mustang faster, GT500 is faster. Funny how the roles are completely reversed from 11 years ago when the Camaro was faster in every regard and the Mustang guys could only brag about their "sales" being better. About the only bragging rights the Camaro has now are in handling and I can't remember ever hearing anyone on the street bragging about how they outhandled their opponent but I do know they want to know who will be in front when the light turns green. So keep bragging about handling, Nurinburg ring times, and sales but the mustang is simply faster in every model compared to the camaro. The Mustang never went away due to low sales.
#24
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Funny how it seems to be that way when you no longer have dominance of straight line speed. Hilarious how the world is backwards from the 4th gen days where all the excuses were from the Mustang guys about handling and sales and IRS's, now it's the Camaro guys spouting the same BS I was hearing 12 years ago from Ford guys. If the tables were turned and all Chevy had was straight line speed you guys would be thumping your chests about how much quicker the Chevy was and that handling didn't really matter.
#25
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It just didn't click with me since all my life the Z28 has been GM's regular performance car.
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#28
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Ford has tested other vehicles at the 'ring (Focus ST, Fiesta ST, along with the GT500) and didn't opt to post lap times so it appears they don't use it as a marketing tool in the same way GM does.
The only track I can think of that Ford specifically mentioned was Fiorano when they were trying to hit the 200 mph mark with the 2013 GT500