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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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GM rolls past 1 million miles in fuel cell demo

Our local news had about a 3-4 minute story on this today...was pretty cool. They also talked about the new "money-back" guarantee for a minute or so.


Buffalo, N.Y. -- General Motors Co. is now 1 million miles into its fuel cell experiment and company officials say having everyday people drive a test fleet of pollution-free cars has convinced them they are on the right track.

The automaker on Friday said it passed the 1 million-miles-driven mark in its fuel cell Chevrolet Equinox vehicles, with about 5,000 people rotating in and out of more than 100 cars over the past 25 months.

"They'll tell you that after the first week, they pretty much forget it's a fuel cell car, which indicates to us that we have accomplished our goal of making the fuel cell transparent to the consumer," said Daniel O'Connell, director of fuel cell commercialization at GM's research and development offices in Honeoye Falls, near Rochester.

"They get in the car and drive it like they've always driven their cars, and that really tells me that fuel cells are closer than most people would believe," he said.

Supporters see the fuel cell becoming a mainstream, eco-friendly alternative to petroleum-powered cars within the next decade. Powered by electricity, generated by a reaction between oxygen and hydrogen, the only emissions are wisps of water vapor.

"You put your hand over the exhaust pipe and the only thing coming out is water. That was such a cool feeling," said Mike Schwabl, a marketing executive who drove an Equinox for 10 days in western New York earlier this year. Other drivers tried cars in Washington, D.C., and southern California.

The cars look and handle like any other car, Schwabl said. "I would love to drive one of these vehicles (permanently)."

But numerous obstacles remain for GM and its competitors in the fuel cell race. Toyota Motor Corp. introduced a car powered by hydrogen and electricity last year and will introduce an improved hydrogen fuel cell vehicle in 2015. Daimler AG has spent nearly $2 billion and plans to spend another $700 million by 2011 for the commercial production of fuel cell vehicles, while Honda has leased a small number of FCX Clarity vehicles in California to assess hydrogen's future.

Auto companies do not disclose costs, but the vehicles are expensive to produce because most are hand-built prototypes. Also, the nation lacks a network of fueling stations.

Improving technology should allow the next cars to go farther than the current 168 miles per fill-up, O'Connell said. Until then, drivers have to keep a close eye on the fuel gauge to avoid drifting too far from one of about 70 fueling stations in the United States.

Test driver Laurie DeRoller learned that the hard way, stalling out five miles short of the filling station in Honeoye Falls during a weekend test drive in May. GM sent a flatbed to take it away.

"It was a rural road, we're talking cars that are mostly farmland type vehicles and people are driving by, and here's myself on the side of the road with the fuel cell car," said DeRoller, executive director of the International Business Council of Greater Rochester. "And people are slowing down and looking," she laughed.

The experience didn't change her mind about wanting to own one, she said, and she felt confident a hydrogen highway will eventually exist. Refueling the cars with compressed hydrogen takes about five to seven minutes in a process similar to putting gasoline in a traditional car.

"I was the only parent allowed to idle my car in the pickup line at school," said Jeanine Behr-Getz, a Greenwich, Conn., author whom GM identified as having driven the millionth fuel cell mile.

"We've learned that the technology can be accepted by the consumer and that it is a viable means of powering our automobiles of the future," O'Connell said of the "Project Driveway" test.

He said the program will continue for five more months and then the cars will be pulled off the road and upgraded with technology developed while they've been in use.
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 02:03 PM
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So who wants to bet water vapor exhaust is the next big thing that is "messing" with the climate/environment if this technology takes off?

Hot, humid days will be blamed on the thousands of fuel cell cars running around. Watch.
Old Sep 11, 2009 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Z28Wilson
So who wants to bet water vapor exhaust is the next big thing that is "messing" with the climate/environment if this technology takes off?

Hot, humid days will be blamed on the thousands of fuel cell cars running around. Watch.
Water vapour is definitely a "greenhouse" gas, more potent than CO2. You'd think it'd be pretty tough for the government to try to regulate, given that natural sources waaaay outweigh anything manmade ... but then again we should never underestimate politicians' desire to screw us over in the name of trying to save us.
Old Sep 11, 2009 | 04:43 PM
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We could capture it all and send it to California
Old Sep 11, 2009 | 05:22 PM
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GM's research and development offices in Honeoye Falls, near Rochester.
I *really* want to see inside there.

Politics aside, the fuel cell development program is a great engineering validation, and putting a million miles onto the rapid accumulation fleet has probably given a good mount of data for review. I still dont see fuel cells as financially viable at this point in time - but they are always technically an option.

I wonder how many more miles GM wants the fleet to run before they get dismantled and crushed?
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 09:55 AM
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Most important question: Where does the Hydrogen Gas come from? And where does the energy to extract it from its source come from?
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