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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 01:23 AM
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DELTEQ, how hard is it to build your own Opti Box?

This technology is available somewhere? I mean, are there tecky people out there that can look at this board in the OptiBox, and then somehow hook a computer up to it, get data etc from the chip.......
I think its not difficult, and just curious if anyone has really looked into it since no parts are available.
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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What does this product do?
Old Jun 16, 2009 | 10:16 PM
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What does this product do?
Its the Opti box for the DELTEQ igntion system, which was designed to overcome a few, just a few, Opti spark issues.
Old Jun 16, 2009 | 11:14 PM
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Sounds good then. The optispark only has a couple potential problems (if you could remove the rotor and high voltage from the distributor, and seal the optical sensor/wheel watertight) other than these it is an Excellent engine control system.

As far as pulling the code off a microcontroller, it's sometimes possible, depends on alot of things (type of microcontroller, type of memory, read capability, etc)... and if you could, you'd end up with a lump of raw assembly code.

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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 01:48 AM
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It looks like the main chip is easily readable. i have that stuff here. Just making it all work is the tricky part.
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 01:51 AM
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what are the part numbers on the 2 main chips (peel off that sticker..)?
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 10:56 AM
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what are the part numbers on the 2 main chips (peel off that sticker..)?
I dont have that. I put it all back into the Car, and its running. I really am not ready to take things apart.
I have readers/programmers for the chips for later on down the line. The rest of the stuff looks simple.
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 08:35 PM
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What reader/programmer do you have?
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 10:01 PM
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What reader/programmer do you have?
Super Secret squirrel at work, and a moates burn1 reader/burner
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 10:25 PM
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I'm not familiar with super secret squids, but what makes you think a moates (eeprom?) programmer would pull the code off some random, unknown (most likely flash) microcontroller, let alone write to it?

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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 12:02 AM
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I'm not familiar with super secret squids, but what makes you think a moates (eeprom?) programmer would pull the code off some random, unknown (most likely flash) microcontroller, let alone write to it?
What makes me think...
Relax shipmate. I just asked a simple question, you asked a question and I answered.
I am not worried about pulling code. Do you know what this thing is? NO, as you asked me. Do you know what code is on here? NO.
Sorry your so confused about eeprom, eproms etc. I was asking a general question to see if anyone has hacked into this, especially after the company went out business.
Are you a tech savvy person? Degree? Job?
If I wanted to go super deep into this I wouldnt be on this board, I would be somewhere else.
I just asked, didnt want to get grilled.

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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 01:32 AM
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Tech savvy, yes.
Degree, I'm going to school for an electrical engineering degree.
Job, automotive electrical.

Sorry I don't mean to drill ya, I'm not familiar with this system. You sound like you've got it all figured out, I'm just wondering what your plan is.

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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 05:19 AM
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Might be easier in the long run to switch to the LTCC, which is still fully supported by a very knowlegable individual/designer.
Old Jun 18, 2009 | 10:52 AM
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Uhm... could it be reversed engineered and re-created; yes... would it cost some $$ yes.

Can you just randomly pull the code and read it/un-compile it... depends on if the original MFG "locked" the code or not...

If you're tech-savy enough and have the know-how; then you should be able to just design it up yourself. Most expensive part is going to be the PWB and having that layed out properly and manufactured.

oh, and for tech savy for myself... ME/EE who did aircraft electronics for 6 years before moving on to medical electronics...

Now though... I'd just go with a LTCC instead of wasting the time with the Delteq.
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Any word on this? I think my opti box is bad and may need one. Anyone need a Delteq?



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