Automotive News / Industry / Future Vehicle Discussion Automotive news and discussion about upcoming vehicles

Climate Change may outlaw Perfromance Cars in Europe

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 11, 2007 | 01:02 PM
  #1  
johnsocal's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 1969
Posts: 1,911
From: Southern California (SoCal)
Climate Change may outlaw Perfromance Cars in Europe

I'm all for going 'green' as long as it creates more jobs and opportunities then it destroys. Those who use the environment to push socialism and/or neo-marxism are nothing more then 'watermelons' ('green' on the outside with a 'red' marxist center )

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...Gw8&refer=home

Chris Davies, a British member of the European Parliament, is proposing one of the most-extreme measures -- a prohibition on any car that goes faster than 162 kilometers (101 miles) an hour, a speed that everything from the humble Honda Civic on up can exceed. He ridiculed fast cars as ``boys' toys.''

The proposed ban would take effect in 2013. Davies told the Guardian newspaper that ``cars designed to go at stupid speeds have to be built to withstand the effects of a crash at those speeds. They are heavier than necessary, less fuel-efficient and produce too many emissions.''

Last edited by johnsocal; Jul 11, 2007 at 02:11 PM.
Old Jul 11, 2007 | 01:16 PM
  #2  
guionM's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 13,713
From: The Golden State
It's not going anywhere. It has to be agreed to by all European countries, let alone Great Britain.

German citizens virturally rebelled when a speed limit was proposed on the Autobaun, and every major European car maker gets healthy cash from their upper end cars. Ferrari is essentially a representitive of Italy.

I'd give it zero chance of becoming law.
Old Jul 11, 2007 | 01:30 PM
  #3  
OutsiderIROC-Z's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 2,688
From: Middle of Kansas
If that would pass, one more reason why Europe sucks....
Old Jul 11, 2007 | 02:39 PM
  #4  
Z28x's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 10,285
From: Albany, NY
LOL.. that would never pass, Italy and German would never approve such a policy.

Is it me or is Britain trying to become a V for Vendetta, 1984, kind of place lately.
Old Jul 11, 2007 | 02:45 PM
  #5  
Toukijin's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 191
Sounds like Europe wants to become California.
Old Jul 11, 2007 | 02:46 PM
  #6  
mdenz3's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,173
I wonder when some one will suggest that tabacco should be outlawed because of the CO2 emissions.
Old Jul 11, 2007 | 03:03 PM
  #7  
Doug Harden's Avatar
Prominent Member
 
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 2,282
One of the best interviews I've read on the subject........by a Czech no less....

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/e9df7200-19c...b5df10621.html
Old Jul 11, 2007 | 03:49 PM
  #8  
HAZ-Matt's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 4,000
From: TX Med Ctr
You would just end up with Ferraris electronically limited at 101mph
Old Jul 11, 2007 | 05:04 PM
  #9  
DvBoard's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 940
From: Southern Indiana
These are the kind of people we can do without in this world.
Old Jul 11, 2007 | 06:21 PM
  #10  
Plague's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,448
From: Irving, TX
Originally Posted by mdenz3
I wonder when some one will suggest that tabacco should be outlawed because of the CO2 emissions.
Or breathing
Old Jul 11, 2007 | 06:34 PM
  #11  
R377's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 2,712
From: Ontario
Originally Posted by Doug Harden
One of the best interviews I've read on the subject........by a Czech no less....

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/e9df7200-19c...b5df10621.html
From the article:

Vaclav Klaus: I ask myself several questions. Let’s put them in the proper sequence:

• Is global warming a reality?

• If it is a reality, is it man-made?

• If it is a reality, is it a problem? Will the people in the world, and now I have to say “globally”, better-off or worse-off due to small increases of global temperature?

• If it is a reality, and if it is a problem, can men prevent it or stop it? Can any reasonable cost-benefit analysis justify anything – within the range of current proposals – to be done just now?

Surprisingly, we can say yes – with some degree of probability – only to the first question. To the remaining three my answer is no. And I am not alone in saying that. We are, however, still more or less the silent or silenced majority.

----------

Well put. It's surprising that few are asking these very logical and fundamental questions. Most people seem driven to want to change the entire world's behaviour based on questionable 'facts' and not very well thought out conclusions.
Old Jul 11, 2007 | 06:50 PM
  #12  
TOO Z MAXX's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 666
From: Stockton, Ca. USA
This guy is a dunbass. First off performance cars are not heavy. Secondly how many miles are driven in these performance cars and I bet its close to zero at those speeds he is talking about. I think they should also outlaw all sporting events too. I am sure the pollution done to put on your average soccer in Europe is way more than these cars produce.
Old Jul 11, 2007 | 08:04 PM
  #13  
posaune's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 455
From: Stafford, Va
Originally Posted by TOO Z MAXX
This guy is a dunbass.
Yes, he is

First off performance cars are not heavy.
NO but many of the cars on the roads in Europe can and do drive over 162 kph on a regular basis.


Secondly how many miles are driven in these performance cars and I bet its close to zero at those speeds he is talking about. I think they should also outlaw all sporting events too. I am sure the pollution done to put on your average soccer in Europe is way more than these cars produce.
I can assure you that those performance cars drive at those speeds...they past me on the Autobahn everyday on my way to work when I lived in Germany. Driving to work everyday, I drove about 100 MPH, in my humble 2005 Cavalier and I was always being passed.
Old Jul 11, 2007 | 08:28 PM
  #14  
Z28Wilson's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 6,165
From: Sterling Heights, MI
What the hell does top speed have to do with emissions?

Won't someone PLEASE reel in the growing insanity surrounding "Global Warming"?
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 04:10 AM
  #15  
guionM's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 13,713
From: The Golden State
Originally Posted by Toukijin
Sounds like Europe wants to become California.
I don't think so.....

Ever drive on a California freeway???



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:08 PM.