Header Horsepower ?!?!?!

camarowhizkid
03-29-2007, 11:29 PM
Hi, I have a 1995 camaro z28 with LT1 engine. The engine has little bolt ons like (air foil,Lt4 knock sensor, SS ram air intake, and a good tune up).

How much horsepower will Pacesetter Mid-Tube Headers and y-pipe give me ?
Will I have any problems with these headers like- burnt plug wires, ect...

Thanks for the help !!

Z95m6
03-30-2007, 12:14 AM
I'd say you could expect 15-20rwhp. Headers were the only "bolt on" that i did on my car that i could actually feel a noticable difference in power. It was a pretty big SOTP gain. I've read bad things about the pacesetter mids. I believe they have terrible plug access and fitment on the mids. If i was gonna go with some cheaper brand mid's I'd go with Mac's in a heart beat.

Critter
03-30-2007, 12:15 AM
go mac mids or pacesetter lt's

buzz12586
03-30-2007, 01:45 AM
I agree. The mac mids are a sweet setup if you have to stay emissions legal. If you don't then go with the long tubes. People have picked up 25-30hp with the longtubes.

2000GTP
03-30-2007, 02:51 AM
Will I have any problems with these headers like- burnt plug wires, ect...

Thanks for the help !!

Just make sure the wires are secured away from the headers with cable ties or such and you should be fine.

cn97z28
03-30-2007, 08:35 AM
Just make sure the wires are secured away from the headers with cable ties or such and you should be fine.

Cable ties are your best friend....:)

stereomandan
03-30-2007, 10:01 AM
I gained about 30 rwhp/35 rwtq from my MAC mids and Hooker catback exhaust.

You mention that you have the SS air intake, so you must have an aftermarket SS hood right?

Dan

subobo0411
03-30-2007, 10:10 AM
I have pacesetter mids and I love them! No problems yet!

mrmint69
03-30-2007, 12:26 PM
I love the Pacesetter mids. Plug access is awesome. I put the plugs in and forgot antiseize and pulled them out and reinstalled them in minutes. I would have never tried this before. The O2's are very easy to get to and look awesome. Bolting them down was 10 times easier than i thought and look sealed perfectly.

396D1SS
03-30-2007, 01:22 PM
back in the day before i went wild I picked up a dyno proved 32rwhp switching from stock manifolds to hooker long tubes with true duals

TobyZ28
03-30-2007, 01:26 PM
Noticable SOTP in an A4 going from stock manifolds + magnaflow to macs + magnaflow

camarowhizkid
03-30-2007, 06:52 PM
these are the headers I want to buy, are they ok to get ??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1994-95-Camaro-Firebird-Exhaust-Header-Headers-LT1_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33631QQitemZ2000863 19201QQtcZphoto

2000GTP
03-30-2007, 07:13 PM
Pacesetters are a decent brand, just keep in mind that those are non-coated headers. The black paint they use is marginal and is mainly used just to get them through the storage/shipping process. Once installed on the car, the paint wears off pretty quick. Your best bet will be to strip them and paint them with a quality header paint.

96m6lt1
03-30-2007, 07:30 PM
you can get the pacesetters in the coated also

95zsean
03-30-2007, 09:17 PM
I just installed as set of pacesetter mid's today,the pass side went in without trouble but the drivers side i had to flatten(very little) the #3 tube some to stop it from hitting the steering shaft.
I did paint them with a hight heat silver paint to. Good luck with the choise.

subobo0411
03-30-2007, 11:07 PM
I just installed as set of pacesetter mid's today,the pass side went in without trouble but the drivers side i had to flatten(very little) the #3 tube some to stop it from hitting the steering shaft.
I did paint them with a hight heat silver paint to. Good luck with the choise.

Ya mine slightly rubs the steering shaft as well, but I didn't bother making any adjustments to the headers themselves...should be ok i think...

IMHO, get coated, the black painted ones i think would look terrible in a couple years

MysticTeal95Z28
03-31-2007, 01:07 AM
IMHO, get coated, the black painted ones i think would look terrible in a couple years

More like a couple of days or weeks.

95zsean
03-31-2007, 07:03 AM
Yes they will!! But what does it really matter? You can only see a little of them and i dont drive it in the rain or snow so they should look all right up top and it saved me $200.00 now!!! For other parts.

buzz12586
03-31-2007, 11:24 AM
It will matter when they rust through and you have a huge exhaust leak.

mrmint69
03-31-2007, 01:14 PM
I keep the car garaged 99.999% of the time so i was thinking of having some dry the air crystals to keep moisture out of the air. This should help a lot.

95zsean
03-31-2007, 10:03 PM
Mine is also in the garage if im not driving it. They should last a looong time!!

Z95m6
03-31-2007, 10:09 PM
Mine is also in the garage if im not driving it. They should last a looong time!!

Concrete is permeable. The moisture can come right up from the ground below it and start to rust your car and headers. Thats why sometimes you'll see low mileage nice garage/barn find old muscle cars and the underside will be covered in surface rust. When I got my LT headers for my Mach 1 back from Jet-Hot it had something about how if you store your car on a concrete floor I think you were supposed to put a tarp down or something under the car to prevent the moisture from coming up. I'd just coat the headers, if not they'll look like total garbage in a few days.

BassProCamaro97
04-01-2007, 01:51 AM
Not only that but concrete never fully cures. It always has some degree of moisture content. I really would like to seal my garage with that stuff you always see in the magazines.

~Jim~

95zsean
04-01-2007, 04:56 PM
I don't have a concrete floor! It's wood with insulation under it and carpet on the floor so no moisture! It's just like keeping it in the house(LOL) It's an old garage that the first owner built just for keeping his OLD car in.
The headers are painted(I did it) with gray hight temp. paint thought.