Winding Road suggests 2011 Trans Am

http://images.00mm.net/windingroad/images/issue-19/tmb.transam.jpg (http://recp.rm05.net/ctt?kn=17&m=509349&r=MzYyNzI4OTQ3MgS2&b=0&j=ODAwNDU0NTES1&mt=1)

Let the WR flames begin!:cool:

Aren't winding road the same clowns that did the fake Blue Devil?

i think so...

next thing you hear from that magazine is

"Kia buys GM"

Winding Road, huh? :think:

Gee.... because it comes from the same guys who got the jump with those Corvette pictures, I guess we should disregard the fact that the Product Chairman of General Motors has said there will be no Zeta Firebird, and the fact that GM would rather slit their wrists than to pay a royalty for the rights of the Trans Am name........


NOT! :lol:


BTW: That is a nice photoshopped Corvette in the picture. Winding Road seems to be quite good at using Vettes, huh? :p

Can someone post the fullsized pic so I don't have to register on a site I'll never ever again go to? :o

Well, at least they didn't photoshop the camaro like I've seen 100 times. Though from the small pic it looks a lot like a high end Mercedes Kompressor or something.

Courtesy of our friends at camaro5.com

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p173/DouglasIden/01-1.jpg

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If you read the article, you will notice that they don't really seem to know what they are talking about. Tey say the Camaro will cost "thousands more than a Mustang" and that it will debut with the 6.0L 400HP motor.... Plus they suggest we will see an IROC car return...:shrug:

If you read the article, you will notice that they don't really seem to know what they are talking about. Tey say the Camaro will cost "thousands more than a Mustang" and that it will debut with the 6.0L 400HP motor.... Plus they suggest we will see an IROC car return...:shrug:

As the old judge on Boston Legal would say, " sounds like a bunch of poopycock!"

I like that a lot, it looks pretty darn cool. Good Photoshopping too, I can't tell where that rear end came from. Saab Aero X?

I like that a lot, it looks pretty darn cool. Good Photoshopping too, I can't tell where that rear end came from. Saab Aero X?

Wait... that isn't the concept they are unveiling at next years NAIAS? :D

Here's a pic or two of the Saab
http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring/images/saab-aero-x-concept-5.jpg
http://www.futurebytes.ch/images/stories/2006/06/saab_aero_x_gross2.jpg

If you read the article, you will notice that they don't really seem to know what they are talking about.

True.

Tey say the Camaro will cost "thousands more than a Mustang"

Very untrue.

and that it will debut with the 6.0L 400HP motor....

Possible.

Plus they suggest we will see an IROC car return...:shrug:

Possible, but very doubtful.

[QUOTE=Brangeta;4435928]Here's a pic or two of the Saab


wow... the resemblence is quite obvious......

fake. but the rear end of that thing looks cool.

That rear end looks like crap.

Aren't winding road the same clowns that did the fake Blue Devil?
... also the source just this week for this uninformed announcement ...:bs:
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/02/20/blue-devil-to-be-called-corvette-ss/

Best regardSS,

Elie

fake. but the rear end of that thing looks cool.

That was actually the part I disliked the most. It's too tall.

Looks kinda Viper-ish to me.

:barf: seriously

I said over on camaro5 that the front, to me, looks like a cross between a 2004 Sunfire and a 1993 Trans Am...

The rear is still ugly.

Personally I think this is garbage - just like their 'vette pics. But let's assume they're right :D WHY would GM wait until 2011 for a Pontiac built off Camaro? If the idea is to market the Pontiac with the Camaro, the delay would be suicide. And if GM isn't looking to joint market Camaro and Trans Am as siblings (and I'd bet a LOT at this point that they're not), then the reason for the Pontiac car to be called "Trans Am" goes away.

And although a two year offset isn't bad, they'd be taking sales away from Camaro just as it's hitting the road.....which is exactly the "help" Camaro doesn't need. Nevermind that Pontiac needs good products now - not in 2011.

The whole premise of this article just sounds SO preposterous to me......and believe me, I want a Trans Am in the WORST possible way and even I can't bring myself to believe this junk! :confused:

The only thing that I will give WR is the picture of the "KING CORVETTE" in their spy pics. It does look like a true shot of the Z** Corvette sitting in a shipping area. Go check it out and tell me what you think. It does look authentic.

As for the TA speculation, I think that Lutz has said that if the Camaro is a SMASHING success, that there MAY be other options with the platform, but that it WILL NOT be badge engineering again. 2011 is so far away given the state of Detroit auto building who knows what could happen.

We might be looking at the Hybrid 2011 Chevy Cuda by then :eek:

Can we please just assume if it came from "Slimey Load" can we please just assume its not credible?

Since I really haven't followed all the misinformation that winding road has apparently been handing out, I will give my objective opinion on this car.

It looks like crap from every angle.

Well the vette pictures are all over the place now, and supposedly a guy is going to jail, so they must be authentic.

TA = Crap.

No way in Hell is that happening.

Ya know, being a firebird owner for 18 years now I'm really getting tired of being the butt of automotive journalism jokes.

I actuallly think its an interesting look. I also think its one of the few photochops thats different enough from Camaro to make it sensible to build it.

Even if we know their info is way off.

Ya know, being a firebird owner for 18 years now I'm really getting tired of being the butt of automotive journalism jokes.

Care to explain??? :confused:

PLEASE make it stop....

http://www.ls1lt1.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8128

:cry:

that photo abortion looks so bad, winding crap.

PLEASE make it stop....

http://www.ls1lt1.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8128

:cry:

Just try to ignore them man. You told them there are no current plans for it comming back. Dont let them drive you nuts...

Care to explain??? :confused:

Guessing the inability of anyone letting go of tying "Smokey and the Bandit" to the name Firebird and/or Trans Am.

It HAS been 30 years now, and as much as I like 70s era Trans Ams and even the movie, it seems a little silly plastering Burt Reynolds picture on every Firebird drawing.

I don't see anyone bringing up "Vanishing Point" as justification in bringing back the Challenger or "Charlie's Angels" as a selling point for the current retro Mustang. :shrug:

I think it's sad, but every single firebird and T/A chop has looked better to me then the actual 5th gen.

PLEASE make it stop....

http://www.ls1lt1.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8128

:cry:

LMAO @ their right to choose products that someone else would have to create. :rolleyes:

Its amazing to me how people are still trying assail unassailable logic.

Even if GM ignored the bank book and reason and decided to bring Firebird back it would be nothing more than an arrowhead on the front of Camaro, and cost more.

Then they would be right back on the board posting about how GM abandoned them. :rolleyes:

It HAS been 30 years now, and as much as I like 70s era Trans Ams and even the movie, it seems a little silly plastering Burt Reynolds picture on every Firebird drawing.

Maybe they'll start plastering Knight Rider on there instead :D

I have noticed that it seems like people think of the firebird in terms of retro-kitsch for whatever reason.

The Oshawa plant rumour for a Pontiac version of the Camaro. GM will be using letters and numbers for there Pontiac Version. Example G6, G8.

I think it's sad, but every single firebird and T/A chop has looked better to me then the actual 5th gen.

LOL I could not agree more.
The 2 year delay does follow in the tradtion of camaro 1st then the firebird 2nd. Let it be built I will be 1st in line.
this would be the one for me.
http://www.ls1lt1.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=624&stc=1&d=1172926782

Guessing the inability of anyone letting go of tying "Smokey and the Bandit" to the name Firebird and/or Trans Am.

It HAS been 30 years now, and as much as I like 70s era Trans Ams and even the movie, it seems a little silly plastering Burt Reynolds picture on every Firebird drawing.

I don't see anyone bringing up "Vanishing Point" as justification in bringing back the Challenger or "Charlie's Angels" as a selling point for the current retro Mustang. :shrug:

Thats why T/A owners are the but of jokes? I loved Smokey and the Bandit as a kid. I thought the "but of the joke" was refering to Winding Road being the but of the jokes and that we may have had a Winding Road Journalist posting...

You know for a company that is as adimant about seat belts, it is a little odd that Burt Reynolds who was on a Muscle car show asking Goldberg "You dont need a seat belt do ya?"

Not bashing anyone, I just thought it was just one of those ironic things seeing that Burts movies helped sell the most F bodies ever.