opinions on the best brake pad....

on a stock ls1 brake system with aftermarket cross drilled rotors, whats the best for rstopping? i dont care about dusk or look, just stopping. hawk?

Hawk Pads hands down... I got my Pads from the Bensalem Pep Boys when i did my Ls1 brake upgrade..i have no complaints from them at all.. they ran me like 75$ for the fronts..they dont dust much either

#2 for Hawks

Do you already have the drilled rotors? If not, i'd stay with plain ol' blank discs.

Do you already have the drilled rotors? If not, i'd stay with plain ol' blank discs.

no i dont have them yet, but why stay away from them?

Every place you drill a hole is less metal to contact the brake pad, which is what stops the car. Do you put smaller tires on the car to make more grip? No, but that's the same as putting drilled rotors on and that's ignoring the fact drilling holes in something weakens it.

PBR pads are excellent @ $67.50. Hawk HPS's are very good @ $81, Hawk HP Pluses are eye popping but dirty @ $120/set (all front prices).

Every place you drill a hole is less metal to contact the brake pad, which is what stops the car. Do you put smaller tires on the car to make more grip? No, but that's the same as putting drilled rotors on and that's ignoring the fact drilling holes in something weakens it.

PBR pads are excellent @ $67.50. Hawk HPS's are very good @ $81, Hawk HP Pluses are eye popping but dirty @ $120/set (all front prices).

do you sell the pbr's? which vendor you with?

i under the concept of less area to grab, but i also believe in the gases that build up between the pads and rotor surface help with brake fade against stopping. i have to believe exotic car engineers and aftermarket pro performance brake manufacturers wouldnt just put cross drills or slotted rotors on for looks.

I'm the owner of Strano Performance Parts.. It's in my sig. :) I do sell the PBR's.

Ok, but then again how many RACE cars have drilled rotors? Next to none anymore. There are many things at play, but gasses are not an issue with street pads, and even less so on a car with power brakes.

And why wouldn't aftermarket companies do it? It makes them more money, that's what businesses are about. And comparing a Porsche of Ferrari with 14" or larger rotors all around and weight distributions that allow the rear brakes to share more work to your car is crazy. When you have sufficient swept area in a lighter car, and ENGINEERED systems like the Brembo's on those cars you can afford to do things to lighten your unsprung mass like drilled rotors or ceramic composite rotors. Your car and brake system is a watermelon compared to those apples and oranges.

Porsche was the first to drill rotors on their 908/3 hillclimbing car, and it was done to lighten the unsprung weight and rotational weight. NOT for stopping power or brake cooling. Note that the 908, 910, 917 road-race cars that need more brakes for longer periods of time (not climbing a hill, one minute at a time) *didn't* have drilled brakes.

ill be calling you soon

I'll second the PBR/Axxis pads that Sam suggests.