what was the verdict on the clinic dannoss? went to...

This was a while ago but i'm sure everyone remembers...

May be meaningless now but i was just curious if the concept is anything at all like the clinic car that guy saw a while back. handle was something like DannoSS

No, that ws not the same car.

I remember Dan talking about it at a gathering back in 2003, and someone else who saw it also said some things about it.

2 big things I remember them both saying was it scored extremely high and looked great, and the other thing they said (using the exact same words) was "..it's a little big to be a Camaro."

Also by descriptions, the clinic car had different sheetmetal.

Danno did a photoshop representation of the car he saw here, so someone should be able to search it and pull it up.

I would like to see this

He's still around. Danno02SS I think??? He posted his thoughts on one of the threads just after the new car was unveiled.

He's still around. Danno02SS I think??? He posted his thoughts on one of the threads just after the new car was unveiled.

You mean my rant at GMNA design? I went into lurk mode shortly thereafter cause if you can't say anything nice ...

As far as the clinic car, I don't know what became of it. RP acknowledged its existance in one thread (debunking that it was based off the SS-concept) but didn't give specifics as to why it was clinic'd. There was also another thread showing pictures of various stages of concept development that had an orange Z/28 mock-up that was very similar to what I saw.

CC_thread_see_post#36 (http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=413308&page=3)

You mean my rant at GMNA design? I went into lurk mode shortly thereafter cause if you can't say anything nice ...

As far as the clinic car, I don't know what became of it. RP acknowledged its existance in one thread (debunking that it was based off the SS-concept) but didn't give specifics as to why it was clinic'd. There was also another thread showing pictures of various stages of concept development that had an orange Z/28 mock-up that was very similar to what I saw.


This one?
http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?8e2132eab7.jpg

Overall it looks pretty similar, same general shape, design...
Although i've never disputed the fact, nor has anyone else from recollection, its obvious to me what you saw at the clinic was a camaro, and its further proof to me at least that its been in the works for quite a long time, its done, and ready to be built! I have the cash, i'll take my ZL1 Z/28 this summer please.

This one?
http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?8e2132eab7.jpg


That's the one. Look at the chops I did right after the clinic next to it here. That proposal made it to the clinic stage but got beat out.

Clinic_Z28_side_by_side (http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/coleslaw151/album?.dir=ec87&.src=ph)

RP, if ur reading this would it be possible to see the cliniic cars. Would GM consider doing that or is that completely out of the question?

That first one looks like Baretta. The one SS1_gongos has a nice open grill but youre right, the rest is just SS concept.

Thanks for showing us!!!

You mean my rant at GMNA design? I went into lurk mode shortly thereafter cause if you can't say anything nice ...

Didn't like the Camaro concept?

I missed the rant. What was the issue you had?

I'm not completely sure that the gray car that we clinic'd still exists. It was a fiberglass based off CTS architecture.

The rear was more pointed like a CTS.......the grille was more 'pronounced'...meaning that the opening was very small at the outer edges and much higher at the middle of the car. The C-pillar was very much like a second gen.........good looking car, but my first thought was 'it's too big'.......and by the time 5mph bumpers were added, it was huge........thus, a clean sheet of paper..........

I'll have to ask around and see if we can release pictures of it at some point in the future. (I'm sure they'll eventually surface......)

Didn't like the Camaro concept?

I missed the rant. What was the issue you had?

Nothing that hasn't been said before:
-me too ... syndrome
To many (non-enthusiast) people I polled said it looked like a Mustang. One of the things I really appreciated about gens 2-4 was that their styling was unique enough to not be confused with anything other than its F-body twin.
-C-pillar
This design element just doesn't work for me. Too much 1st gen, too many engineering compromises. Flying pillars like that can't be as strong as more upright designs and T-tops don't work with it either.
-Front end
Once again too much 1st gen and more engineering compromises. I haven't been able to find a drag coefficient for an 05+ Mustang anywhere but the Camaro (without some sort of Cady V treatment of the grille) will have a number very close to it. GTs hit a wall at 130mph, I don't think they can go much higher than 150.

That's about it. If the Mustang hadn't of been out first I probably would not be soo cold toward it. Don't think I'd get one though.

I'll have to ask around and see if we can release pictures of it at some point in the future. (I'm sure they'll eventually surface......)

That would be awesome:bow: Thanks a lot

Nothing that hasn't been said before:
-me too ... syndrome
To many (non-enthusiast) people I polled said it looked like a Mustang. One of the things I really appreciated about gens 2-4 was that their styling was unique enough to not be confused with anything other than its F-body twin.
-C-pillar
This design element just doesn't work for me. Too much 1st gen, too many engineering compromises. Flying pillars like that can't be as strong as more upright designs and T-tops don't work with it either.
-Front end
Once again too much 1st gen and more engineering compromises. I haven't been able to find a drag coefficient for an 05+ Mustang anywhere but the Camaro (without some sort of Cady V treatment of the grille) will have a number very close to it. GTs hit a wall at 130mph, I don't think they can go much higher than 150.

That's about it. If the Mustang hadn't of been out first I probably would not be soo cold toward it. Don't think I'd get one though.

You dont think them confusing it with Mustang might have something to do with the similar Fender Flares and flat sides as opposed to the 69 swooshes and round sides? How many of those same people would confuse a Challenger for Mustang?

Certain shots of the front fenders I think look BMW. I think putting the swooshes on the car would greatly improve and distance it but thats me.

I'll have to ask around and see if we can release pictures of it at some point in the future. (I'm sure they'll eventually surface......)

Any luck? ;)

David