450,000 Aluminum V6 Blocks for GM

poSSum
01-19-2006, 04:32 PM
Wonder what they're going into.

Mexico's Nemak Wins Contract To Make Engine Blocks For GM
14:57 EST Thursday, Jan 19, 2006

MEXICO CITY -(Dow Jones)- Nemak, the auto parts unit of Mexican conglomerate Alfa SA (ALFA.MX), said Thursday it won a contract to build new V6 engine blocks for General Motors Corp. (GM) vehicles.

Alfa said the program calls for output of 450,000 blocks a year, and that production is set to begin at the end of 2006 at its facility in Windsor, Ontario.

Nemak said the production involves an innovation in the manufacturing process developed by its own engineers. "It also reflects our customer's drive to develop more efficient and powerful engines that require the replacement of iron by aluminum in these components," the company added.

Nemak has operations in Mexico, Canada, Germany, Slovakia and the Czech Republic. Its sales in 2005 totaled $1.24 billion.

-By Anthony Harrup, Dow Jones Newswires; (5255) 5080-3450, anthony.harrup@ dowjones.com

(END) Dow Jones Newswires
01-19-06 1456ET
Copyright (c) 2006 Dow Jones & Company, Inc.

97z28/m6
01-19-2006, 04:59 PM
they should make the 3.5/3.9 with aluminum blocks.:D

HAZ-Matt
01-19-2006, 07:20 PM
Another feature for high feature perhaps.

305fan
01-19-2006, 09:26 PM
Is this a sign of increased production for the HF V6's?

Threxx
01-19-2006, 09:27 PM
Yay Mexico... that's domestic, right?:rolleyes:

91_z28_4me
01-19-2006, 09:29 PM
Is this a sign of increased production for the HF V6's?
Could very well be. We know the Aura will get the HF V6. Perhaps the HF will replace the OHV HV V6s accross the line.

Or the HV could get aluminum blocks which would help with cafe and handling.

90 Z28SS
01-19-2006, 09:38 PM
Yay Mexico... that's domestic, right?:rolleyes:

Article says they will built in Canada , home of the good ol LSx engines :)

danno02SS
01-19-2006, 09:44 PM
Yay Mexico... that's domestic, right?:rolleyes:

Actually it's Canada, production is set for their Canadian plant.


Excellent find poSSum, so 450000 HF/HiPo V6 blocks at a Canadian plant.
I don't think Buick, Cadillac, and Pontiac account for that much volume.

Sounds like Camaro may be tooling up and given just-in-time manufacturing processess other components should follow very-very soon.

AdioSS
01-19-2006, 10:00 PM
are there any aluminum block V6s in GM now?

305fan
01-19-2006, 10:06 PM
are there any aluminum block V6s in GM now?

all HF V6s are. HV V6's are all iron

AdioSS
01-19-2006, 10:06 PM
are there any aluminum block V6s in GM now?
yes there are. the 2.8 & 3.6 HFV6s are already aluminum blocks.

Threxx
01-19-2006, 10:07 PM
Built in Canada by a Mexican company, even better! It's all North America, just not domestic!

AdioSS
01-19-2006, 10:08 PM
I just thought of something. Maybe this could be the next V6 for the full size trucks? The 4.3L is based off the old Gen1 SBC V8s and has been around for ages.

RussStang
01-19-2006, 10:49 PM
Built in Canada by a Mexican company, even better! It's all North America, just not domestic!

Well, when this thread turns to ass, we will know what the catalyst was.

Threxx
01-19-2006, 11:37 PM
Well, when this thread turns to ass, we will know what the catalyst was.

Because it's only an ass thread when GM is critisized. If it wasn't GM and people were talking about foreign part contracts, ya'd be fine with it.

RussStang
01-19-2006, 11:46 PM
Because it's only an ass thread when GM is critisized. If it wasn't GM and people were talking about foreign part contracts, ya'd be fine with it.

I didn't say I cared one way or the other, so don't jump to conclusions about what I think about something.

I just stated something that is pretty obvious to me. If this thread goes downhill, this is probably going to be the reason.

blckbrd84
01-20-2006, 02:30 AM
Because it's only an ass thread when GM is critisized. If it wasn't GM and people were talking about foreign part contracts, ya'd be fine with it.

And you'd be defending it whatever foreign company it was. So why be make a deal when GM does it? In fact, why bring the thread down when it seems the main point was the increased production in HF V6's?

Chris

Evilfrog
01-20-2006, 09:55 AM
Blame Billy Boy and his baby NAFTA...


Get over it and move on, also long as there is NAFTA, there will be parts made in mexico and canada. At least its not taiwan.


That's 450,000 total, not 450,000 a year right?

lbrowne
01-20-2006, 10:12 AM
When it comes down to all parts in a car, and I mean right down to bolts and interior panel clips etc etc - its very possible if not definite that not everything is assembled in the homeland of the car's origin.

Maybe even beloved imports! :)

All this buzz is getting me excited, I think GM might be on the fast track here.

Z28x
01-20-2006, 10:53 AM
Get over it and move on, also long as there is NAFTA, there will be parts made in mexico and canada. At least its not taiwan.

NAFTA good for North America. I'd rather buy goods and sell goods to our nieghbors in Canada and Mexico than countries like China and Inida.

Cheaper blocks from Mexico mean more money for US engineers and more money for new features and cheaper cars for Americas. If I pay less for a car, that gives me more money to spend on other things like education, my house or going out to dinner which help local bussinesses. (or even a better faster car ;) )

To bad Mexico is lossing to China. The Mexican Gov't sucks at running things. Just imagine if mexicans actually liked Mexico and stayed instead of sneaking into the USA. Heck, the money we would save on boarder enforcement alone would be huge!

poSSum
01-20-2006, 11:12 AM
That's 450,000 total, not 450,000 a year right?

450,000 a year.

Evilfrog
01-20-2006, 04:06 PM
450,000 a year.

Well...

They arent going to sell half a million V6 camaros a year thats for sure. So what other cars are getting this engine?

91_z28_4me
01-20-2006, 04:10 PM
Well...

They arent going to sell half a million V6 camaros a year thats for sure. So what other cars are getting this engine?
Chevy RWD sedan.

96_Camaro_B4C
01-20-2006, 04:14 PM
Saturn Aura will have the 3.6L as an option. The Lambda crossovers will be sporting the 3.6L. That will be some serious volume right there, since Buick, Saturn, and GMC will all have a Lambda.

Z28x
01-20-2006, 04:24 PM
Well...

They arent going to sell half a million V6 camaros a year thats for sure. So what other cars are getting this engine?

Saturn Aura 100,000+
Buick Enclave 75,000?
Caddy BRX 75,000?
V6 Camaro (probably not) 70,000
Buick Lucerne V6 50,000+
Buick Lacrosse V6 100,000 (dump the 3800)
2008 Saturn Vue?
Saturn Outlook 75,000?

1990 Turbo Grand Prix
01-20-2006, 04:43 PM
Saturn Aura 100,000+
Buick Enclave 75,000?
Caddy BRX 75,000?
V6 Camaro (probably not) 70,000
Buick Lucerne V6 50,000+
Buick Lacrosse V6 100,000 (dump the 3800)
2008 Saturn Vue?
Saturn Outlook 75,000?
You might be forgetting a Pontiac.

;)

91_z28_4me
01-20-2006, 04:59 PM
You might be forgetting a Pontiac.

;)
And a Chevy sedan counterpart.

stars1010
01-20-2006, 05:13 PM
NAFTA good for North America. I'd rather buy goods and sell goods to our nieghbors in Canada and Mexico than countries like China and Inida.


I agree:thumb:

Big Als Z
01-21-2006, 02:12 AM
Thats a lot of blocks. I assume that these are HF's and not HV. If so, good move on GM's part to bring the OHC V6's to market in such mass. I have much hope for these engines. I dont see the need for the 3.5 or 3.9. Good engines, but you cant get out of it what they want.
This is 450k ontop of what GM already makes, and they also sell the engine across the world. Aussie's are making them, and Europe has them. Saab will get them as well, in both the 9-3 and 9-5.
450k is a big number. I figured all together its gotta be close to 600k HFV6's a year made in US alone.

SSbaby
01-21-2006, 07:22 AM
There was a company here in Melbourne that won a contract to manufacture alloy V6 blocks for the then forthcoming HFV6... ION went under and forced Holden to look elsewhere for a supplier. Could the supplier be the Mexican based manufactuer?