unvc92camarors 07-22-2004, 10:13 PM i just got my side mirror housings and b-pillar (sail panel, whatever) painted body color on my z28, and the guy said never to use wax, even on the stuff he didn't paint
he said that the paint was polyurethane like or something or other and should always be exposed
he said a good polish would shine it up nice and would be better than ever putting a wax on
anybody have any thoughts on this?
i've used wax before and i've never had a problem
i think i'm going to wax anyways (wait on the fresh painted stuff for a month or so though) because i think it will just help protect
just wondering what you guys thought of this radical (to me) idea
Cmr0z28 07-22-2004, 11:55 PM All I have to say to that is
:lol:
Hyperspeed97z28 07-23-2004, 11:12 AM If you listen to what that tool told ya, He'll be painting your car again... and making money off ya .. Which is what it sounds like he intended to do....
I've NEVER herd that in my life ....
KevinSS 07-23-2004, 05:38 PM There are even products on the market that are polishes and waxes combined although they do not work that well. The term wax is way, way over used, it should really only apply to carnauba waxes but in todays world you have synthetic waxes now which really are polymers...
unvc92camarors 07-23-2004, 09:37 PM well, this guy was 60years old or something, and he didnt seem like a money-grubbing type guy so i was more willing to consider his opinion than somebody of different character
guess it doesn't matter anyways, i finally ordered some zaino:D
i'm not sure if it's worth the price yet or not, but i finally decided to bite the bullet and try it
lbls1 07-24-2004, 12:07 AM I would advise you not to use that person again (just my opinion). Wax or synthetic finish polish is absolutely necessary for the longevity of your paint surface. Period. There is absolutely no substitue for applying wax or polish.
You will find in time that without properly caring for your car's paint by not waxing or applying a finish coat of synthetic polish, that your paint's finish will be full of dirt, chips, and have endless signs of abuse. Prolonged neglect will render your paint quite dry and near colorless, which will require it to be repainted.
I have had cars up to 11 years and not had to have any wetsanding or repainting done. My previous car that I owned for 8 years (the car is 11 now), still has its original showroom shine, thanks to nothing but dilligent coatings of carnauba wax.
Waxing is just something that you can't skip if you are concerned with maintaining your paint's finish.
Error 07-26-2004, 08:05 AM I never, ever, ever wax my truck...
That's what Zaino is for :lol:
darkoverlift 07-27-2004, 12:12 PM Wax is like coke.. Coke can mean pepsi.. Soda can mean pepsi ect... Wax can mean sealants like Wolf Gang Or Klasse SG...
I would use a high quality pre cleaner then seal the paint every month or two for a nice shine.. Do not forget to use clay and some swirl remover so you get a real nice shine.
Black5.7TPI 07-28-2004, 12:19 PM First of all, did the guy paint your car with urethane, and is it a base coat/clear coat or a Maaco (mix the clear & base together) single stage. Even though urethane is very durable, it like anything else exposed to the elements is subject to wear and tear. A good quality wax will protect the finish as long as you are willing to maintain it.
It is unwise to wax your paint for 60-90 days depending on the paint manufacturer even though (I hope) it was done a spray booth as there is still solvents that could be trapped underneath the wax.
Is the guy giving you a written warranty backed by the paint supplier-most good shops will and a godd paint company will stand behind their product.
Polish=brighten paint
Wax=protect paint
Not waxing=neglecting paint=repaint
kingman109 08-01-2004, 08:03 PM my boss had his cobra kit car (427 insane will get pics) painted by some nationally known painter... will get name later... anyway this guy did and incredible job-
basically he said dont wax car for year and half - and keep out of sun as much as possible... after year and half everything works out of the paint and it fully sets up - then my boss has to bring the car back and he re-wet sands everything and polishes it...
he then told him to use zaino car polish but only once a year and to just use detailer spray to shine it up...
Hyperspeed97z28 08-02-2004, 11:21 AM my boss had his cobra kit car (427 insane will get pics) painted by some nationally known painter... will get name later... anyway this guy did and incredible job-
basically he said dont wax car for year and half - and keep out of sun as much as possible... after year and half everything works out of the paint and it fully sets up - then my boss has to bring the car back and he re-wet sands everything and polishes it...
he then told him to use zaino car polish but only once a year and to just use detailer spray to shine it up...
But that isnt an everyday driver, exposed to the elements ...
kingman109 08-02-2004, 01:47 PM point taken :p
CraZ70rsCamaro 08-10-2004, 04:49 AM There are even products on the market that are polishes and waxes combined although they do not work that well. The term wax is way, way over used, it should really only apply to carnauba waxes but in todays world you have synthetic waxes now which really are polymers...
sounds about right to me, with these fiberglass bodies and paints for them you shouldnt have to wax that often or really have to worry that much about it, best thing to do in my opinion for nice easy low maintence shine is get it clear coated for a couple c notes (hundred dollar bills :D ) on the side or something, or get the wazoo job...
Just my two cents
Cmr0z28 08-10-2004, 02:15 PM ^so you're saying spraying more clearcoat is an alternative to protecting the finish? Good luck with that.
Knight5 08-15-2004, 04:40 AM must be a smart guy :D :D :D
SixSpeedShifter 08-17-2004, 10:36 AM My parents just got a new Buick Rendez-vous, and they were told to NEVER wax it either..... Just figure I'd through that in there..
Cmr0z28 08-17-2004, 11:12 AM Lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lbls1 08-17-2004, 10:17 PM one of these days....I'll have to post a picture of what a car looks like if it is never waxed, versus a properly waxed vehicle over time. You will just not believe the difference.
GreenDemon 08-24-2004, 03:45 PM one of these days....I'll have to post a picture of what a car looks like if it is never waxed, versus a properly waxed vehicle over time. You will just not believe the difference.
Wax is useful, but a garage is really the best paint protector. Years of sunlight will hurt your car whether you wax it or not.
unvc92camarors 08-24-2004, 09:11 PM talk about the thread that won't die:D
lbls1 08-24-2004, 10:43 PM Wax is useful, but a garage is really the best paint protector. Years of sunlight will hurt your car whether you wax it or not.
Not necessarily.......even with a garage, you will find that without protecting and finishing your paint, in time the finish will dry and dullen, requiring it to be treated either by compounding or (if prolonged) wetsanding or repainting. A garage, of course, will greatly prolong this occurrence, but it isn't just the sun that attacks paint. Airborne particles and oxidation occurs regardless of whether its covered or not.
I run this line like a broken record, but I owned a car for 8 years (it is now 11) without a garage or car cover, and it maintained its showroom shine, by dilligently cleaning and waxing the finish in a routine every year since new.
CamaroZBoy 08-24-2004, 11:10 PM I just cant understand how someone that knows how to do bodywork and paint cars could even let the words "dont wax" slip out of his mouth even if he is trying to do a dirty trick to earn him more cash. So sick.
Wax that thing, it is a good thing...trust just about anyone else's opinion ;)
cory
1stls1 08-29-2004, 02:19 PM Paint is pain,if it is on fiberglass or on metal it needs to be protected! I'm in Fl w/ a blk car w/ 74000 miles on it. If I wait for 1 month to "wax" it, it looks soo much better than just wash and wipe!
CamaroZBoy 08-29-2004, 04:07 PM Paint is pain,if it is on fiberglass or on metal it needs to be protected! I'm in Fl w/ a blk car w/ 74000 miles on it. If I wait for 1 month to "wax" it, it looks soo much better than just wash and wipe!
You aint the only one living in West Palm w/ a blk car. Aint it a bitch? Always gotta keep a good layer of wax on the paint other wise its not lookin to great.
Cory
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