what would win, 95 3.4 vert modded vs 98 stang 3.8?

im gonna race my friend, he has a 98 stang 3.8 SE, and i have a 3.4 vert with by this weekend, headers CAI and flowmasters. this race is gonna take place in one month, and i was woundering what else if needed i need to beat him in a race.

A fat cam and new valve springs would help a lot.

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Seth
1985 Camaro
2.8L T-5 3.42LSD
Car is on it's 5th engine and #5 is as good as dead, it will get it's 6th soon
Mods, up graded to a internaly balanced 88' 2.8L motor(<#3 has broke piston skirt)
ported exhaust mainfolds
home made big air intake
2.25'' in/out Dodge cat
no muffler(getting little muffler to finish off raspy sound)
Accel 8mm stainless steel plug wires
no more smog pump

The mustang.......unfortunately.

im with red......the mustang

nitros nitros...

acutally i would think you'd win with the mods you have

look around for maybe a set of pullies and maybe a posi rear...

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Arrest-Me Red 96 Z-28, M6...stock for now...but i've only had it three days...1st mod on day 4! TB airfoil...NOW...G2 CAI(modified), K&N, MagnaFlow w/ cutout(closed of course), maf ends, ?cags?, UD pulley, TB bypass, 160stat, SLP fan switch, SLP air temp module, Hypertech PTM, Hurst(SS donation) with a Lou's SStick and Proform Shiftlight, BMR lca, phb and stb, ES poly TA mount, air silencer???
Waiting to go on: 1LE springs, BMR 32/21mm solid sway bars, SLP afpr

This is 98 Mustang? It has 150HP engine... They accelerate to 60mph somewhere in the 9 second range, whereas fbody will do around 8 - 8.5

This isn't the new 99 V6 engine that has 190 HP, in which case you'd be spanked big time.

You should win, hands down.

A friend in VA has a 00' nearly base line stag, it has high rear gears(high 2.??) and an open diff and an auto trans.
He can't burn the tires they just spin some or do doughnuts they look like a big circle.
you can get power to the ground better than him but he probly will win if you don't do some real mods.

The 1998 3.8s Mustangs had 150 HP. You have 160, plus if you add the mods, you can take him. Anything can happen, but you should be able to.

If it was a newer 3.8 Mustang, however, they'd smear you all over the street. Remember to remove all excess weight...it makes a difference.

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1996 Camaro
3800 Series II

1995 Dodge Stealth R/T
Twin Turbo 3.0L AWD M6,A'PEXi AVC-R boost control, Blitz Blow-off valve, K&N FIPK, Denso Iridium plugs, 245/40/18 Kumho Supra, all Mobil 1 fluids. 3/22- Just ordered Borla catback!
*VVvvTTttFFff*

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by All_InTheRED:
The mustang.......unfortunately.</font>

ditto if Mustang has stick.

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Bob
93 3.4L Black Camaro, TB coolant-bypass, Moroso CAI, ADS SuperChip module, aluminum DS, BMR STB
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you could get a custom turbo, and strap it on, then tell me how you did it, and you would easily win.

-ATL

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3.4L '93 camaro
stock(gurrr)

we both have auto's and no for the turbo, i dont have that kind of money, but i think i may get some underdrive pullies and then its a win for sure? i mean we both have only have our license for like a month, so both of us are not skilled at racing.

there is no sure thing. he could be modding his Stang while you mod yours. but his AODE tranny could be an equalizer to your much heavier convertible.

practice your launch. get the UD pullies, LSD and aluminum DS. practice your launch. get some tranny mods. (sorry, don't know auto mods) oh, did i say practice your launch?

i know for sure that this guy aint moddin, cuz he wants to put a cobra engine in his car, and that wont be till the end of high school. so i think i got this in the bag.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by OnixV6:
practice your launch. get ... LSD and aluminum DS.</font>

If you'll be getting LSD, I doubt it really matters...

On the more serious note, getting a torque converter for your auto will aid you quite a bit.

Later,
max.
96 Z28, M6, 67K miles

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2"> we both have only have our license for like a month, so both of us are not skilled at racing.</font>

Rookies...just don't take out any innocent people out when you guys race, okay? http://web.camaross.com/bb/wink.gif

One of these weekends I'll have to get me and my crew down to Campbell and show these high schoolers to concentrate more on their studies than their cars. http://web.camaross.com/bb/biggrin.gif

Don't build up your car just for this one race...if you have enough to beat him, good...if not, who cares. Trust me, you're going to get beat plenty of times so don't worry about what you need to do to beat him.




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1996 Camaro
3800 Series II

1995 Dodge Stealth R/T
Twin Turbo 3.0L AWD M6,A'PEXi AVC-R boost control, Blitz Blow-off valve, K&N FIPK, Denso Iridium plugs, 245/40/18 Kumho Supra, all Mobil 1 fluids. 3/22- Just ordered Borla catback!
*VVvvTTttFFff*

haha yea i need to concentrate on my studies, cuz my GPA is only a 2.0 and i need to keep it like that if i want my car to still be mine, any u guys know any good sites to cheat in math or spanish?

Just out of curiosity. Would a stock 3.8 camaro be able to take on a stock 3.8 99 or newer mustang? I know the ford 3.8 is a ****ty engine and ford's trannies stink. I have a frend with a 96 3.8 mustang who talked $hit to me and I handed him his a$$ with my 97 3.8 RS. hehe

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by muckz:
If you'll be getting LSD, I doubt it really matters...
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yes, it does.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 97 Camaro RS:
Just out of curiosity. Would a stock 3.8 camaro be able to take on a stock 3.8 99 or newer mustang? I know the ford 3.8 is a ****ty engine and ford's trannies stink. I have a frend with a 96 3.8 mustang who talked $hit to me and I handed him his a$$ with my 97 3.8 RS. hehe</font>
Stock for stock, the 3.8 Camaro and the 99+ 3.8 Stang are pretty evenly matched. You have a little more power, he has a little less weight.
UNLESS the Mustang has an automatic. Even the Ford boys themselves admit that their automatics suck monkey balls, and are nearly a full second slower than manual cars. With an F-Body, the difference is negligable.

Yep, My wife had a stock 99 3.8, and I had a stock 96 3.8, both autos.., I beat her all the time..My car out ran hers too

correction
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by k9ulan:
Yep, My wife had a stock 99 mustang 3.8, and I had a stock 96 camaro 3.8, both autos.., I beat her all the time..My car out ran hers too</font>



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Black 97 Z28 m6: Granitelli MAF, BBK headers, Functional SS Ram Air Hood, Vortech polished elbow,Chrome ZR Wheels
96 3800, !cat, ram air, B&M Shiftkit 97 5 star custom painted wheels

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by k9ulan:
Yep, My wife had a stock 99 3.8, and I had a stock 96 3.8, both autos.., I beat her all the time..My car out ran hers too</font>
Thats a good one!! http://web.camaross.com/bb/biggrin.gif


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Black 94' 3.4l Camaro A4

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by All_InTheRED:
The mustang.......unfortunately.</font>
Thats crap my friend had a 98 3.8 liter Mustang and he said he only had 130hp. It didnt seem very fast at all. We never raced but he drove my car and he thought mine was faster. With the mods "rollin" is going to put in his car he should take him. The only thing the mustang has going for it is that it is newer.


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Black 94' 3.4l Camaro A4

[This message has been edited by Perfecto (edited September 10, 2002).]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by k9ulan:
Yep, My wife had a stock 99 3.8, and I had a stock 96 3.8, both autos.., I beat her all the time..My car out ran hers too</font>

Damn, someone's been digging up old topics.

http://web.camaross.com/bb/eek.gif

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1994 Black Firebird 3.4L
Mods include:"Ghetto Master" K&N FIPK, Crane 8MM Plug Wires and Accel Coil Packs, ASP Underdrive Pulleys, SLP Take-off Shocks and Struts, Edelbrock Performer RPM Catback, Catco Hi-flo Cat, 1 pc. steel DS, built GM 4L60E transmission.

"My kind of music is Marilyn Manson and Orgy. The kind of music that makes mothers hold their childrens ears when I drive by."

I'm on the fence? I know I'd whip em.Ive takin the 4.6L(all stock) before.
I think the base is a little higher than 130 on the 98 3.8 ford.
Super six Motorsports can get the Ford 3.8 up to 340rwhp stage 4!!
The F*ed up thing is they offer stage 2 for GM 200+rwhp w/ custom computer.For now that is.I'm doing this soon as I have valves heads problems.They say w/ wet nitrous added they can get around they're ford numbers.
Just race him,geeze

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Hella Clean Dark Green Metallic 98 3.8 L60E Coupe:Fast toys Ram Air,Holly filter,Whisper lid,Jet stage2 PCM,160 Thermo,Man.fan switch,Purple ice wetter,Eibach Pros,Koni adjustables,BMR sways,Prothane bushins,Transgo kit,Magnaflow cat-back.National Auto Sport Ass. member/student.

As for the quickest pre 99 stang I ever saw ran 16.4s, it was a 5-speed had intake exhasut and gears, I used to slightly edge him out or be even when I had intake jsut a muffler, and plugs and wires.

I think you will take him, but I am not sure how convert 3.4Ls perform. Get his ass off the line and you will hold out hte entire race.


as for new v6s, all the AODEs I have seen were runing mid 16s with all the basic mods, not as similar to the f-body as you would think.

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-Eric
1994 Medium Quaser Blue Camaro 3.4L V6 w/ 5-speed
Stock blocked, boltons only.
15.696@86.22 with a 2.214 60'!
Best R/T .507 Best 60' 2.078
Father's Stock 2000 Navy Blue Camaro 3.8L V6 w/ 5-speed
15.875@88.25 With wheel spin in 1st
3.4L F-body where 15s are fast....
www.fbodyv6.com
www.firebirdv6.com
www.camaroz28.com
AIM: MustangEater82

haven't most hte people with supersixxmotorsport packages on f-bodies had nothign but problems?

As for a stock pre 99 3.8L I am 95% sure they are 145 hp.

Mustangeater,I only have heard of one guys prob. w/ a leaking valve seal.
I'd be very interested in hearing some of the probs.
You gotta admit 200 to the rear sounds good,add the nickle & dime hp mods (already intalled)gets a little higher.A build up on the block,balanced,some headers and a ATI intercooled (LS1)super charger.Ohh Yeah!
Thats my plan
I just realized this post is march 27.Rollin in camaro what did happen?Win or Lose?

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Hella Clean Dark Green Metallic 98 3.8 L60E Coupe:Fast toys Ram Air,Holly filter,Whisper lid,Jet stage2 PCM,160 Thermo,Man.fan switch,Purple ice wetter,Eibach Pros,Koni adjustables,BMR sways,Prothane bushins,Transgo kit,Magnaflow cat-back.National Auto Sport Ass. member/student.