What don't you want on an 5th gen.

I was just wondering from a styling stand point what everyone disliked over the generations and never wants to see again.

My list:

1.Base steering wheels (could they make them any uglier) (all gens)
2. Disco graphics (late 2nd)
3. Tu-tone paint (2nd 3rd)
4. RS (4th)
5. "CAMARO CAMARO CAMARO CAMARO" interior (3rd)
6. "IROC-Z" emblazoned on the door (3rd) (or any graphics)
7. The way the fenders molded to the mirror on 4th gen.
8. All 4th gen wheels except for ZR-1 type
9. Tacked on look of 1st gen rear spoiler.
10. Phony hood scoops (77-79 Z28/IROC/LT-1 Z28)
11. Hubcaps (all gens)
12. SS scoop looked like an it didn't belong (4th)
13. 91-92 Z28 spoiler (at the time I thought it was rediculous but after 11 years it's starting to grow on me)

I never liked the two tone black roof on the 4th gens.

I never liked the fake hood louvers on the 3rd gens.

I never liked those Trans Am inspired "spats" on the rear wheel wells of '80-'81 Z/28's.

Originally posted by steves


4. RS (4th)

12. SS scoop looked like an it didn't belong (4th)

RS?!?!? Thats Camaro history right there.....they need to make the RS what it once was, an appearance package.

And the SS hood scoop is one of the best looking hoods for the 4th gens. I dont understand I guesss what you mean whn you say it looks like it didnt belong. To me it fits right in, and follows the lines and curves of the car.

Originally posted by Aklaim
RS?!?!? Thats Camaro history right there.....they need to make the RS what it once was, an appearance package.

And the SS hood scoop is one of the best looking hoods for the 4th gens. I dont understand I guesss what you mean whn you say it looks like it didnt belong. To me it fits right in, and follows the lines and curves of the car.

Just my opinion. If you like it and think it fits in with the rest of the design thats great. I didn't mean to eliminate the RS just make it better. The G/FX on the 4th gen didn't help.

Originally posted by steves
I was just wondering from a styling stand point what everyone disliked over the generations and never wants to see again.

My list:

1.Base steering wheels (could they make them any uglier) (all gens)
....Tell me what's wrong with this steering wheel.

http://images.cardomain.com/member_img_a/240000-240999/240075_23_full.jpg

Originally posted by jg95z28
Tell me what's wrong with this steering wheel.

http://images.cardomain.com/member_img_a/240000-240999/240075_23_full.jpg

If I remember correctly there was an optional steering wheel on the 1st gen. The car in that picture looks as if it is pretty well optioned up.

That's my car.

It's the standard steering wheel, with the RS horn cap.

Originally posted by jg95z28
That's my car.

It's the standard steering wheel, with the RS horn cap.

For some reason I picture in my head a two spoke as the standard wheel on the first gen. I just checked out your pics.:thumb: Those Torq Thrusts on a 1st gen look awsome. I like the color also. I was never really into 1st gens, but lately I've been getting into them more.

The wheel you might be thinking of is the optional "rosewood" IIRC wheels. I HATED it in my first gen. That may not be the correct name, after not having one for 2+ years, my memory is starting to fade.

Originally posted by steves
For some reason I picture in my head a two spoke as the standard wheel on the first gen. I just checked out your pics.:thumb: Those Torq Thrusts on a 1st gen look awsome. I like the color also. I was never really into 1st gens, but lately I've been getting into them more. Yeah, I didn't like the Torque Thrusts at first, but now they're kind of growing on me.

Ok, I'm sorry, big mistake. My steering wheel is the Deluxe model. The Standard 67-68 came without the chrome on the spokes. The 67 and 68 Deluxe wheels are similar but slightly different. In 69 they introduced the BIG two spoke wheel with the fake wood grain horn button/bar that was integrated in the spokes. (Probably the one you were thinking of steves.)

In 67-68 you could get an optional "Walnut" wood steering wheel with chromed three spokes. In 69 they changed over to "Rosewood". (Good memory Jake.) They also offered the three spoke comfort grip steering wheel in 69.

... and of course I left out the 68-69 SS wheel which was a three spoke that color matched the interior. :)

Originally posted by steves
I was just wondering from a styling stand point what everyone disliked over the generations and never wants to see again.


Styling standpoint? :think:

Camaro was always contemporary, very much in tune with the style or fashion of the day, so I wouldn't think "disco" stripes, 2 tone paint, or the large wing of the last 3rd gen Z28s (the one Camaro item ahead of it's time??) would make a return unless it bacame fashionable again.

What I would like to see return are:

1. Recessed headlights. In every car that has them (not just the 4th gen) they look agressive.

2. The "Racing Coupe" look. The fastback Camaro's had since the 2nd gen looks good, and I don't know how you'd be able to engineeer T-tops into the car without looking like it was done by the aftermarket, but hey, you asked.

3. Alumunum or wood trim in the interior. The 4th gen interior was as bland as the 2nd gen's interior was inviting. 2nd gen Camaro's woodgrain and Trans Am's turned metal dash & interior trim gave the cars a stop dead in your tracks, and check it out quality in it's day. Someone else said it before, and I'll second it, the late 70s Pontiac Trans Am interior is perhaps the best looking interior ever put in an F-body IMHO.

Beyond these, I'm just going to have to trust the product guys at GM to make the 5th gen up to date and good looking, and GM's management not to let the next gen F-body go stale and wither on the vine.

Actually the early IROC steering wheels before air bags, are probbaly my favorite stock wheels ever.

I agree on the fake hood scoops. Even though I dont think they looked bad, it still bothers me that they arent functional.

Some good looking steering wheels would be welcomed.

The base 3rd gen steering wheel...(the one with the big rectangle in the center)....was just bizzare.

The 4th gen steering wheel was just plain ugly.

Originally posted by Z284ever
Some good looking steering wheels would be welcomed.

The base 3rd gen steering wheel...(the one with the big rectangle in the center)....was just bizzare.

The 4th gen steering wheel was just plain ugly.

Right that square one sucks :yuck: Mine has the one with the circular center and the 3 spokes. Kinda looks like a grant GT wheel, just with a camaro symbol in the center :)

I agree with GuionM on the headlights, i think the "flush mounted" headlights need to be ditched and the recessed ones come back. thats one styling item that seems to scream "Camaro".

And also the steering wheels on the late third gens and all 4th gens should be chucked. they're not bad, but i think Chevy should integrate the actual Camaro symbol into the wheel like the mid to late 80's third gen three spokes. those wheels were good looking IMO.

Yes, the Z28/IROC steering wheel was great. I have the square in my 89 and it is lousy, don't like the 90-02 wheels either. The 3 spoke round center needs to come back. Some cars have them again already.

Some things I don't want on the 5th gen: (styling)

- 4th Gen looks. (LOL, j/k, I had to guys, don't go crazy on me :D)
- That square shift knob, I like the round 1's like early Thirds.
- Hoods that are not functional.
- Rims that are too big.
- Body intergration.
- Black roofs and mirrors.
- Painted tailpipes.
- LS1 headlights.
- A windshield that is way too raked.
- Spoliers that are too big like 91-92 Z28s.
- Basically any styling that is plain, not tough, boring, all-round, bland, generic, Chrysler, or something that doesn't make people look and say "wow!!" or "Camaro."


Some things that I WANT to see on the 5th Gen:

- IROC looking shape with similar fender flares that show the wide tires all the time.
- All-black, mean looking dash.
- Cowl hoods.
- Maybe an SS style based hood.
- Chrome angle cut tips.
- Stripes of ANY kind, unless they are overdone like the later 2nd Gen. (good examples are 1st/early 2nd stripes, 82-84 Z28 and IROC lower body stripes or 92 Anniversary cars.
- Rims that look incredible and will always look good. (like 16" IROC's and early Z28 rims)
- A 3 piece spoiler sized inbetween the 2nd Gen Z28 and Third Gen IROC style.
- Hatchback.
- Angular but rounded lines/looks.
- Nice visable emblems.
- T-tops that have metal black painted edges unlike the plastic 4th Gen look.
- Aggressive but not overdone GFX.
- License plate in between taillights.
- Nice round gauges, especially Tach and Speedometer.
- Recessed, black painted headlight pockets.

I just want to add BTW, that the 4th Gen could have benefitted alot from stripes since it was the only Gen that really didn't have any available regularly. Some1 here put 1st Gen SS stripes on his LT1, (the kind that go from the front, to the fender, then the door) and it definetly made it look better and a little more aggressive. Some dude here also put a 3 piece 70 Z28 style spolier on his 1st Gen and it looks really good. What am I saying?? Make sure you stay with the wrap around taillight/spoiler look.