Getting ready for M7

I wanted to do a few more mods to the IROC for Woodward. I didn't get a chance too. So I started yesterday to make sure they were done before M7.
I installed a strut tower brace to start. What a difference it made. I have had the frame tied for many years so I was not expecting to much from the STB. I had it laying in the garage for two years. Man I wish I had done this a long time ago.
Next I am going to dress up the engine compartment with some braided lines. Just to make it look a little better.
Then the NOS kit goes on.
Last the 87 IROC wheels are getting polished and I will be running on DR's.
I am looking to go 1.0 to 1.5 faster than last year. Will try a 150 shot just to see what happens.
Looking forward to another great event.



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87 IROC L98 700R4 A few mods. Best et 12.96 at 110 mph
All motor No NOS or Supercharger.
96 WS6 FORMULA Best et 13.5 at 105 mph

oh great, your finally goin to beat me http://web.camaross.com/bb/smile.gif

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DaveD
1998 WS6 #207
-ARE Stage II Head/Cam
1998 Regal GS
-It Has Boost

The Phantom of CamaroZ28.com
Http://PhantomTA.cz28.com

Well Dave if you guys would quit adding Mods I would not have to. It's hard when you are trying to race with a 3rd gen. I feel like Rodney Dangerfield. I don't get any respect.
Yes I have never gotten over you killing my WS6 on Gratiot. http://web.camaross.com/bb/wink.gif Dave I know I will never be the fastest but would like to at least be in the top 20%. Someone has to stick up for us slow 3rd gens. But then again there may be a 10.0 second third gen there that a few people know about.

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87 IROC L98 700R4 A few mods. Best et 12.96 at 110 mph
All motor No NOS or Supercharger.
96 WS6 FORMULA Best et 13.5 at 105 mph

Hey its not my fault you had a full car that nite.

Tho that black LX vorteched 5.0 was a different story. You seen it. he was mad http://web.camaross.com/bb/smile.gif

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DaveD
1998 WS6 #207
-ARE Stage II Head/Cam
1998 Regal GS
-It Has Boost

The Phantom of CamaroZ28.com
Http://PhantomTA.cz28.com

Yes you were on a killing spree that night. You guys ran two or three times from what I remember. You were the man that night.
What are you doing home on a Friday night? You should be out looking for some trouser trout.

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87 IROC L98 700R4 A few mods. Best et 12.96 at 110 mph
All motor No NOS or Supercharger.
96 WS6 FORMULA Best et 13.5 at 105 mph

[This message has been edited by Chris Ja (edited August 30, 2002).]

Well the car is over at APE doin god knows what.

The GF is up north and im not goin up till tomorrow.

and the Regal doesnt have the new pulley on it.

so im goin to bed.

The mustang and i ran like 4 or 5 times actaully.

We never got a good run, hed hit it first then id catch up and wed let off.

Finally we hit it at the same time and i just pulled http://web.camaross.com/bb/smile.gif
hehe

time for bed now i think

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DaveD
1998 WS6 #207
-ARE Stage II Head/Cam
1998 Regal GS
-It Has Boost

The Phantom of CamaroZ28.com
Http://PhantomTA.cz28.com

Here is a question for you guys. I posted these in the GT110 thread but want to make sure alot of people see this.
I am installing a NOS wet kit on my engine. It is a wet kit. I have a Lingenfelter motor with the SuperRam induction system. I have heard you should not run a wet kit because it can leak fuel and backfire causing the lid to blow off. In my mind I would rather blow the lid off than blow the engine running to lean. If I am wrong please post why. I can buy the part to change it over to a dry kit for $100.00. What do you think?

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87 IROC L98 700R4 A few mods. Best et 12.96 at 110 mph
All motor No NOS or Supercharger.
96 WS6 FORMULA Best et 13.5 at 105 mph

if we go there will definatly be a 10 second,2nd gen there 406ci F.A.S.T efi system, nos, the efi is just now getting finished. and i now am running more cam shaft .650 lift. hope to get some new tires for it the 26's are a lil to small i think gunna bump it up to 28 or 29. hopfully if its done and we get up there we should run mid to low 10's.

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SPRAY IT HARD!
AIM screen name
SLEDNECK650
SSnthe10s

if we go there will definatly be a 10 second,2nd gen there 406ci F.A.S.T efi system, nos, the efi is just now getting finished. and i now am running more cam shaft .650 lift. hope to get some new tires for it the 26's are a lil to small i think gunna bump it up to 28 or 29. hopfully if its done and we get up there we should run mid to low 10's.

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SPRAY IT HARD!
AIM screen name
SLEDNECK650
SSnthe10s

Hey Chris, I am FAR from a juice head...right now anyway http://web.camaross.com/bb/biggrin.gif but I did see a GREAT article that broke down, how, why, and the reasons for on everything Nirtous. It was the GM Performance rag that had Jason Crommer in it. If anybody by you has it, I would grab it and read it. If not, let me know, and I will scan it into the puter tonight after the Berger show and email it to you. It talked all about what you just asked.

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Arrest ME Red 1994 Camaro Z28 Convertible
just a chip and a muffler, well maybe some headers

First run EVER
R/T - .675 (on a pro tree)
60 FT - 1.943
1/4 - 13.969 @ 98.77
http://home.attbi.com/~mycamaro/

Chris,

I also heard that using a wet kit with the SR will result in fuel puddling in the intake and creating problems. I myself wouldn't attempt it, but its your car and your money http://web.camaross.com/bb/wink.gif Id spend the hundy and get the stuff for the dry kit. Either that or sell it to me http://web.camaross.com/bb/biggrin.gif


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Mike L.

1987 IROC Z 5.7 TPI A4 3.27 Borg-Warner four wheel disc
Mods: 2300-2500 Stall Converter, Shift Kit(GM parts), TPI Specialties Stage 3 PROM, Modified airbox w/ K&N's, Relocated MAT sensor, Gutted MAF, 160* thermostat, MSD 6A, Accel 8mm Wires, bypassed TB coolant, 3" Flowmaster 3 chamber single outlet, custom adjustable cutout, 3" MAC mandrel intermediate, airfoil, ported plenum. !smog, Crane AFPR, Accel rail mounted FP gauge, Harlan shiftlite, 24lb. injectors, Hedman headers, a few others I forgot...??? FINALLY GOT PAINT!!

Check out my IROC webpage! (http://iroc5.7tpi.home.att.net/wsb/html/view.cgi-home.html-.html)

Chris: I really don't like the idea of running fuel through a manifold that was never designed for that purpose. Puddling, and un-equal dispersion are two problems with it. That's why I like a dry system.
The only wet-system I'd run would be a direct-port.

Just my $.02

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Tom
1997 30th Aniv. SS <<383 Cubes of Nitrous Huffing Power!
2FASST.com (http://www.2fasst.com) <<< Holy s***! It's really here?!?!
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2002 Ford F250 Powerstroke diesel. More torque than my racecar!
"...Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time!"

Thanks guys yes I think you are right. I will get the kit to make it a dry system. I am going to start the install tomorrow. I didn't think about it before but I don't think I have room for the wet kit injectors anyway with the SuperRam. I would have to make some kind of set up for the air filter housing. With the Super Ram there is just enough room now for the stock air filter housing. I may get some 4 inch exhaust and make a system with a big K&N filter on the end. Run it inside the inner fender. That should get a little more air to the throttle body I would think.
Thanks again guys.

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87 IROC L98 700R4 A few mods. Best et 12.96 at 110 mph
All motor No NOS or Supercharger.
96 WS6 FORMULA Best et 13.5 at 105 mph

Dreamer if you get a chance email me it to me. Sounds like it would be of help seeing I know very little about using NOS.
Thanks my friend.
Mike did you get your trans fixed. I hope so.
I have a new 3000 stall B&M converter I need installed. Does anyone know someone who works cheap? That is more than I can handle with my health. It is a none lockup so it would need a switch installed. Let me know as it would take a little time to come up with the money.

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87 IROC L98 700R4 A few mods. Best et 12.96 at 110 mph
All motor No NOS or Supercharger.
96 WS6 FORMULA Best et 13.5 at 105 mph

[This message has been edited by Chris Ja (edited August 31, 2002).]

[This message has been edited by Chris Ja (edited August 31, 2002).]

yellow
yellow
yellow
green

I win http://web.camaross.com/bb/biggrin.gif

Chris,
you still have a mass air sensor on that car, right? along with the stock air box? just curious

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Denny Villemure
1989 Camaro IROC-Z Convertible, 305 TPI, 2.73 Gear, Flowmaster 2 chamber. 15.60 on motor, 14.20 on a 75 shot from NX. Woo hoo!
www.denny.cz28.com (http://www.denny.cz28.com)

Will do Chris. I have to get it scanned into the computer. I just got back from the Berger show and momma is wanting a little attention. So tomorrow I will scan it for you and send it along. It was a very good article. Talk to ya then

Denny yes it is a MAF sensor car. That is why I was saying I don't think there is enough room.
Let Joe know I may need some help with the wiring soon.
Dreamer get those honey dews done. I don't want to get you in the dog house.
Jeff KandiedZ was coming out today. I though about it but went back to bed. I don't think Berger was to happy with me at M6 anyway. I killed 2 of there 380HP SS Camaros there. I was laughing about it and they said I was spraying. I told them no there cars were not making 380 HP. My car dyno 303 RWHP. So if there cars are 380HP and I beat them by about 4 or 5 cars then i should put say 450 HP emblem on my car right. http://web.camaross.com/bb/wink.gif

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87 IROC L98 700R4 A few mods. Best et 12.96 at 110 mph
All motor No NOS or Supercharger.
96 WS6 FORMULA Best et 13.5 at 105 mph

Yea Chris let me know when your ready and I'll come over and help install that nitrous kit and wire it up for ya. If you want I could even install that converter for ya.
Let me know man!

Joe

Joe do you know what needs to be done with a none lock up converter. I have heard you install a switch. I have also heard there is something you put on the trans and you don't need the switch. I am not sure about with either.
Also denny ask about the MAF sensor on my car. Will a wet kit work with that. I don't know anything about NOS either. http://web.camaross.com/bb/confused.gif

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87 IROC L98 700R4 A few mods. Best et 12.96 at 110 mph
All motor No NOS or Supercharger.
96 WS6 FORMULA Best et 13.5 at 105 mph

[This message has been edited by Chris Ja (edited September 01, 2002).]

Yes you can use NOs with a MAF, but you have to install the nozzel after the MAF.
I thought about the problem with using a Sup0er Ram with a wet6 kit and I also agree that it's probably not a good idea, so if you know of a kit to run a dry shot then go for it. I'd like to know how that works though, does it make you injectors spray in more fuel or somthing to make up for it???
As for the converter you won't use a switch. The switch is for people who have a lockup converter but for some reason don't have a computer anymore. The switch was used to lock up the converter manually. Since you're puttin in a non-lockup converter you won't have to.
Joe

BTW, who's this 10 second third gen I'm hearing about? It's not me, I know that fo shizzle!

I will be getting a dry kit instead of the wet kit. Cheaper in the long run.
To do the converter I will need something for the trans I am told. Not sure what but I will have to find out.
The guy lives in East Detroit that has the 3rd gen. He just did a 406 or 427 build up. He post here sometimes.
I took the IROC out today and ran through the gears. I had Dennys old tires on there and they sing pretty good. When I hit 3rd gear they chirped loud. That is the first time in all the years I have had the car it did that. http://web.camaross.com/bb/biggrin.gif

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87 IROC L98 700R4 A few mods. Best et 12.96 at 110 mph
All motor No NOS or Supercharger.
96 WS6 FORMULA Best et 13.5 at 105 mph

Denny:

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http://web.camaross.com/bb/biggrin.gif--GONE

HInk:

http://web.camaross.com/bb/smile.gif
http://web.camaross.com/bb/smile.gif
http://web.camaross.com/bb/smile.gif--GONE!
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[This message has been edited by Redbird (edited September 01, 2002).]

Chris - If I can find some time before I leave, I could help with the converter install. I could be wrong, but if it's non-lockup there is nothing you can do to it to make it lock up.

Maybe we can trade, the converter install for a real nice interior/exterior detail job on the 'vert!

Joe:
http://web.camaross.com/bb/smile.gif
http://web.camaross.com/bb/smile.gif
http://web.camaross.com/bb/smile.gif
http://web.camaross.com/bb/biggrin.gif
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Joe

The 10 second IROC you're referring to is Scott Koresky's, he's on the boards as 1bad86z and is getting carried away and going all out race car. I don't think you'll see it too much on the street anymore.

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Mike L.

1987 IROC Z 5.7 TPI A4 3.27 Borg-Warner four wheel disc
Mods: 2300-2500 Stall Converter, Shift Kit(GM parts), TPI Specialties Stage 3 PROM, Modified airbox w/ K&N's, Relocated MAT sensor, Gutted MAF, 160* thermostat, MSD 6A, Accel 8mm Wires, bypassed TB coolant, 3" Flowmaster 3 chamber single outlet, custom adjustable cutout, 3" MAC mandrel intermediate, airfoil, ported plenum. !smog, Crane AFPR, Accel rail mounted FP gauge, Harlan shiftlite, 24lb. injectors, Hedman headers, a few others I forgot...??? FINALLY GOT PAINT!!

Check out my IROC webpage! (http://iroc5.7tpi.home.att.net/wsb/html/view.cgi-home.html-.html)

Mike you are right his name is Scott. With all the meds I couldn't remember.
I don't think I want the converter put in if I have to be over 3000 RPM all the time. I guess I will try and sell it. Then get a 3000 stall lock up converter. I have a 2400 stall lock up in there now. Just a little below the power band.
Scott just let me know about the detail work and we can do it or I can do it. Either way it will look sweet.
Joe I will let you know about the NX or NOS kit Tues or Wens.

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87 IROC L98 700R4 A few mods. Best et 12.96 at 110 mph
All motor No NOS or Supercharger.
96 WS6 FORMULA Best et 13.5 at 105 mph

Chris-

I know its off topic, but i seen where you posted on the MM garage sale board expressing interest in those IROC wheels Scott had for sale witht he ET Streets... My meighbor bought them to put on an El Camino, and found out they won't fit without spacers. He may consider selling them. I'll let you know. Maybe he'd be willing to do a trade on some polishing work or something.


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Mike L.

1987 IROC Z 5.7 TPI A4 3.27 Borg-Warner four wheel disc
Mods: 2300-2500 Stall Converter, Shift Kit(GM parts), TPI Specialties Stage 3 PROM, Modified airbox w/ K&N's, Relocated MAT sensor, Gutted MAF, 160* thermostat, MSD 6A, Accel 8mm Wires, bypassed TB coolant, 3" Flowmaster 3 chamber single outlet, custom adjustable cutout, 3" MAC mandrel intermediate, airfoil, ported plenum. !smog, Crane AFPR, Accel rail mounted FP gauge, Harlan shiftlite, 24lb. injectors, Hedman headers, a few others I forgot...??? FINALLY GOT PAINT!!

Check out my IROC webpage! (http://iroc5.7tpi.home.att.net/wsb/html/view.cgi-home.html-.html)

Mike let me know what he wants for them. I was just thinking about refinishing them and selling them. Let me know how they look and what he wants.

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87 IROC L98 700R4 A few mods. Best et 12.96 at 110 mph
All motor No NOS or Supercharger.
96 WS6 FORMULA Best et 13.5 at 105 mph