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Old Apr 15, 2003 | 09:01 AM
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Speakers for a 2001 Z

Hello all. I'm looking to replace the factory speakers in my 2001 Z28. I have the Monsoon sound package (not the CD changer in the trunk). I looked on Crutchfield.com but they had way to many types of speakers for me to make sense of (if you couldn't tell, I haven't done this before! )

I'm looking for something nice. I'm really just looking for new speakers (no amp, etc. I think someone told me that that unit is 600 watts? is that true?) Anyway, I'm just wondering what you folks would recommend for a replacement for all six speakers. Should I get component speakers? What the hell is a component speaker!?

Just looking for a good setup. Any and all suggestions are welcome. Thanks!
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 11:08 AM
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Not really a good idea to just replace the speakers in the Monsoon system without adding an aftermarket amp to power them. The stock Monsoon speakers have various impedences that just replacing them with a 4 ohm speaker will actually make it sound worse.

Read all about it here:

http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread...threadid=48092
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 04:58 PM
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Agreed. Sorry to tell you this, but it's best to dicth everything with the monsoon name on it. Speakers, amp, head unit and all the wiring. I recommend saving up enough money to do this because your not gonna get the improvement your looking for by just replacing the speakers.

A component system is actually a set of speakers. The set comes with 2 mids, 2 tweets and 2 crossovers. 1 mid and 1 tweet hook up to each crossover and you run the power to the crossover. Basically, that's it. The crossover prevents high frequencies from going to the mid and low frequencies from going to the tweet. You can get a decent set for as little as $100. (almost the same price as a set of co-axils!!)
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 09:44 PM
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Thanks for the responses! Well, I gotta do what I gotta do! So basically I'm going to be looking for a new head unit, amp, and six speakers. Any rough estimates on what I should be looking to pay (installation not included) for the whole sha-bang, any good brands for all the stuff?. Something mid-range. I'm not going to enter any competitions, but something that I can hear (and feel!).

Now just one more (I warned you I have no idea). The front doors and rear seat side panels are 6-3/4" and the back panel ones are 4". I took a look around crutchfield.

They have the "regular" 6-3/4" and component. Any particular recommendations on which to go with? The regular ones seem to be capable of all ranges, but I imagine the quality isn't as good as with the component? The 4" seem to all be woofers.

Basically my question is what is the best way to set it up (i.e. midrange in doors, woofer in the rear seat, and component in the back, etc.)

Well, thanks again for the responses. I appreciate all the help!

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Old Apr 16, 2003 | 12:23 AM
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Originally posted by BlackZin01
Thanks for the responses! Well, I gotta do what I gotta do! So basically I'm going to be looking for a new head unit, amp, and six speakers. Any rough estimates on what I should be looking to pay (installation not included) for the whole sha-bang, any good brands for all the stuff?. Something mid-range. I'm not going to enter any competitions, but something that I can hear (and feel!).
You don't need to run 6 speakers. Spend your money on good front speakers and a single sub, I don't run rear fill as my system is going to be set up for competition. You will only feel bass with a sub. I would say $1000 is a workable budget but $2000 would have better results. I have about $1500 in my 92, and my 01 will have around $3500 all said and done.

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Now just one more (I warned you I have no idea). The front doors and rear seat side panels are 6-3/4" and the back panel ones are 4". I took a look around crutchfield.

They have the "regular" 6-3/4" and component. Any particular recommendations on which to go with? The regular ones seem to be capable of all ranges, but I imagine the quality isn't as good as with the component? The 4" seem to all be woofers.
Only run 6 1/2" or 6 3/4" fronts, or if you must run some rears do some 5" in the hatch. You hit the nail on the head with components, much better but more difficult to install.

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Basically my question is what is the best way to set it up (i.e. midrange in doors, woofer in the rear seat, and component in the back, etc.)

Well, thanks again for the responses. I appreciate all the help!
I would run front components, a single sub and a four channel amp to power it all if I was trying to save money. Give an idea of the budget and I'll help you out. PM me and I'll let you know the best places to buy equipment from.
Old Apr 16, 2003 | 02:24 AM
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I agree with pretty much everything Red said. If you are on a budget..... you could probably get everything done for about $1k (head unit, components, single 10" & 4-channel amp) If you could spare 1500 or 2000, then we could really work something out! For a head unit....... do you use MP3 encoded CDs? If so, I recommend the Alpine 7894. If not, the Alpine 7892.
Old Apr 16, 2003 | 09:01 AM
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Wow. Thanks! I'd like to do everything for about $1500. I get the impression that that would give me a good setup. So there we go.

If I replace the head unit will I lose the steering wheel controls and the speed controlled volume? I'd like to keep those.
Old Apr 16, 2003 | 10:46 AM
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You don't have to replace the stock HU and/or changer to have great sound. You can use the PAC OEM-1 and integrate aftermarket components with the stock HU.

Check out my system at the link in my sig. I think I only paid around $1000 for my set-up using internet sites such as:

www.thezeb.com
www.cbrstereo.com
Old Apr 16, 2003 | 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by BlackZin01
Wow. Thanks! I'd like to do everything for about $1500. I get the impression that that would give me a good setup. So there we go.

If I replace the head unit will I lose the steering wheel controls and the speed controlled volume? I'd like to keep those.
$1500 a good setup budget. You can keep your steering wheel controls, but not the speed volume(not really a big deal to me). You will achieve better sound with an aftermarket HU. Here's a few questions for you.

Are you doing the install or do we need to factor that into the budget?
Are you wanting rear speakers or just fronts?
Do you mind multiple amps?
How much bass do you want?
Old Apr 16, 2003 | 04:48 PM
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Are you doing the install or do we need to factor that into the budget?
Are you wanting rear speakers or just fronts?
Do you mind multiple amps?
How much bass do you want?
Well, I've never done a car stereo install. I did wire up my home theater and do a bit of engine work, so I think I'll give it a shot myself. Unless, of course, it's really THAT hard.

I was originally thinking of getting 6 new ones, but a few folks suggested just four. So I guess it's 4 or 6 new speakers. Wouldn't it be a bit of a shame not to use all of em? Dunno...

I'm not sure of the advantages/disadvantages of multiple amps. Based on what I know at the moment, I don't mind either way.

Hmmm... how much bass... Well, a bit more than I have now, but I'm not going to be entering competitions or anything. My whole purpose in replacing the sound system is to be able to take the T-tops off and crank up a nice stereo as I haul a$$ down some nice New England mountain roads.

Oh, just one more thing. I'd also like to try to have to do as little body/inetrior mods as possible. (I know, I know, I'm being a pain...)

Thanks again!

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Old Apr 16, 2003 | 05:11 PM
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Oh, just one more thing. I'd also like to try to have to do as little body/inetrior mods as possible. (I know, I know, I'm being a pain...)

Thanks again!
Not a problem, only real thing that will need to be done is a tweeter mount. I'm sure if you are mechanically inclined and look at enough info and ask enough questions you'll be able to do it yourself. Sounds like a single 12" will get you where your going, check my webshots for a few good pics. I'm guessing you like to have that surround effect that rear speakers provide. I only run front speakers and I have alot of money in my systems. But it's doable.

Start with a head unit, I like Alpine and Pioneer. I feel they have the best quality, features and sound with the edge going to Alpine. With your budget I'd stay under $300 on the head unit.
Old Apr 18, 2003 | 09:59 AM
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Well, thanks for all the advice. I'm off to do some research and pricing. Hopefully I'll have some pics in a couple of weeks! Thanks again!
Old Apr 19, 2003 | 03:09 AM
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Check out Alpine and Pioneer for HU. Focal for speakers. MTX, RF, Alpine, and many more for amps. Alpine and JL for subs. These are what I normally recomend to folks. Make sure you leave around $300 just for wiring and stuff when you do your budgeting. Post up with what you find and we'll critique it for ya.
Old Apr 19, 2003 | 03:00 PM
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I got some time, I'll give you some recommendations!

Head unit: Alpine 7892 or if you use MP3 incoded CD's, the Alpine 7894
Components: Focal 165K
Rear fill: I have tried it both ways and I still prefer a little rear fill. The big thing to remember is the keep those high frequencies from behind your ears. You want that soundstage front and center. Don't use co or tri-axils in the rear. Just a simple mid-range or mid-bass. I recommend the Kicker RMB6's.
I don't recommend getting a single 5 channel amp to power the whole system because most of them don't output more then about 50WRMS@4ohms. I recommend running atleast 75 to your components.
Amp: Kicker KX600.4 or if you can spare the extra couple bucks, step up to the Kicker KX800.4. For the sub amp, I recommend the Kicker KX400.1 or, again, if you can afford the extra couple of bucks step up to the Kicker KX600.1. This will even give you a little room to upgrade in the future if need be.
Since your not looking for a massive amount of bass, a single 10" or 12" will probably be plenty.
Box: Passenger or driver's side stealth box.
Sub: 10" or 12" Alpine Type R. There are A TON on Ebay.
Wire: www.knukonceptz.com , www.darvex.com orDelcity.

There. That should get you on your way! If you don't like any particular piece of gear I recommended, tell me and I will try to give you a couple of more recommendations.
Old Apr 21, 2003 | 12:14 AM
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Head unit: Alpine 7892 or if you use MP3 incoded CD's, the Alpine 7894
This looks nice. Just one question. I looked it up on crutchfield (I like their specs page) and it says it doesn't have "Anti-shock memory". I'm just looking for this thing not to skip (the roads in Massachusetts can get really crapy!). I know I have to remove the rear bracket for this new HU to fit. Can I unbolt it, or do i need to cut? And will my steering wheel controls still work with this one?
Components: Focal 165K
I'm assuming these will go in the front doors. Is that right? Will both fit under the stock speaker cover, or will I have to mount the tweeter in the A-pillar? Won't I need midrange? The description for these is a mid-bass and tweeter.
[QUOTE]Rear fill: I have tried it both ways and I still prefer a little rear fill. The big thing to remember is the keep those high frequencies from behind your ears. You want that soundstage front and center. Don't use co or tri-axils in the rear. Just a simple mid-range or mid-bass. I recommend the Kicker RMB6's. [/QUOTE}
Ok, I know this is gonna be a really stupid one, so I'm ready for it
but by rear fill, do you mean the the ones by the rear passenger seats, or the ones way back in the hatch? A lot of folks have told me to get 4 speakers and screw the 2 extra. Just wondering which 2 to get rid of? And do most people just take them out, or leave them in and disconnect them?
Since your not looking for a massive amount of bass, a single 10" or 12" will probably be plenty.
I think I'm just going to get one stealth box and mount it on the driver's side cause I'd like to keep my jack? Any reason not to do that?

Other than that, it all makes sense. Just one last thing. Anyone know where I can find/buy/steal some sort of wiring diagram or something? I really want to do this myself (it'll sound better when I'm done!). Well, thanks again. Everyone's been really cool about helping out. I'll buy you guys a drink if you're ever in Boston! Thanks.

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