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Open Letter from Camaro Chief Engineer Al Oppenheiser RE: the 650-horsepower GT500

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Old 11-22-2011, 09:52 AM
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Re: Open Letter from Camaro Chief Engineer Al Oppenheiser RE: the 650-horsepower GT50

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Old 11-22-2011, 12:32 PM
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Re: Open Letter from Camaro Chief Engineer Al Oppenheiser RE: the 650-horsepower GT50

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The work they are putting into Magnaride III is beyond anything they have done before. I am thinking it would be more fair to say that there isn't one factor that is more important than another, because the right combination is comprised of many factors in concert with each other. Between Ford and Chevy, we will soon see who can orchestrate that better with teh chassis they have to work with.

I agree with Jacob, this are simply awesome times to be a performance car enthusiast. 10 years ago, we would have never guessed we would be where we are today.
Absolutely! I've probably played the devil's advocate a little too harsh but it's important to me that this site focuses more on being objective rather than subjective. This is what makes the information I receive more valuable and utimately keeps me here.


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The success of the Porsche chassis cannot be argued against. But I am thinking that it isn't an apples to apples comparison with most other vehicles in terms of weight distribution, simply because it is unique for having a rear-engine coupled with rear (or all) wheel drive.

I think a rear-engine Camaro would look hideous.
While you're correct in that its configuration is unique there are quite a few cars out there that are considered better handling than the Camaro and Vette with a greater bias in weight ratio. Most of the mid engine rear wheel drive cars don't reach a 50/50 distribution and this seems to be the optimal choice in creating an all out performance car.

And yes, a rear engined Camaro would be hideous indeed!
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Old 11-27-2011, 03:19 AM
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Re: Open Letter from Camaro Chief Engineer Al Oppenheiser RE: the 650-horsepower GT50

my 1996 TA has 90% of the engine placed behind the front wheels. Nice try guy.
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Re: Open Letter from Camaro Chief Engineer Al Oppenheiser RE: the 650-horsepower GT50

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my 1996 TA has 90% of the engine placed behind the front wheels. Nice try guy.
What are you talking about?
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Old 12-02-2011, 07:10 PM
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Re: Open Letter from Camaro Chief Engineer Al Oppenheiser RE: the 650-horsepower GT50

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Weight distribution is far from the end all, be all of handling. If that were the case then the most winning car in the history of racing wouldn't have something like a 39/61 weight distribution.

Until an actual head to head comparison is made you can keep trying to find objective ways for the ZL1 to be better.
Well I guess GM should just put a screaming halt to impending ZL1 production and work at getting it closer to 39/61 weight distribution, then start production after they solve that dilemma. Ditto for Ford and the GT500. Honestly, this discussion has gotten over the top on both sides, it starting to sound too much like a "mines bigger than yours" discussion after spending too long at happy hour.
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Re: Open Letter from Camaro Chief Engineer Al Oppenheiser RE: the 650-horsepower GT50

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Yes it was a concept that wasn't green lit and possibly wasn't going to be. The point is Ford was making Mustangs and selling them from 2003 til 2008 without any Camaro to have to deal with and still came out with the GT500 during that time even though there was no competition to have to worry about.
Hmmmm.........did you ever consider that the Mustang is also their answer to the Corvette?

I'm sorry that you're not a fan of the ZL1 -- but I think you really should wait and drive one (or ride in one) prior to making a final decision.
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Re: Open Letter from Camaro Chief Engineer Al Oppenheiser RE: the 650-horsepower GT50

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Hmmmm.........did you ever consider that the Mustang is also their answer to the Corvette?

I'm sorry that you're not a fan of the ZL1 -- but I think you really should wait and drive one (or ride in one) prior to making a final decision.
I never said I wasn't a fan of the ZL1, I just thought it funny all the people in this thread saying how it was a better car than the GT500 with a lot of ridiculous comments that bordered on infantile. I'm actually needing to buy a car in the next month or so since I just can't trust the Cobalt SS to get me home anymore, I'm debating all 3 cars right now, Challenger RT, Mustang GT, and Camaro SS, I've always been a Camaro guy having ordered my 2002 stripper LS1 and my first car being a 1988 Camaro RS. USAA $750 rebate is a definite plus with the Camaro but we shall see. All 3 are great cars so it's a tough decision!
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Re: Open Letter from Camaro Chief Engineer Al Oppenheiser RE: the 650-horsepower GT50

Didnt the GT500 run 7:35?
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Re: Open Letter from Camaro Chief Engineer Al Oppenheiser RE: the 650-horsepower GT50

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Didnt the GT500 run 7:35?
I don't believe Ford has ever published official 'ring times for the GT500...
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Re: Open Letter from Camaro Chief Engineer Al Oppenheiser RE: the 650-horsepower GT50

Where did you see that
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Re: Open Letter from Camaro Chief Engineer Al Oppenheiser RE: the 650-horsepower GT50

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Didnt the GT500 run 7:35?
Supposedly they did, but the claim was made by someone watching from (if memory serves) outside the track who timed it with a stopwatch.

Ford has never said what the time was, and I'd guess that's most likely because they were still developing the Shelby, rather than tweaking the settings like they were with the ZL1.

It's clear in the photos the Shelbys being run had small, but significant, differences from both the production cars and the upcoming 2013. Most notably, winglets on the front fascia, and one foglight removed (which leads me to believe they might have been testing the effectiveness of different brake cooling setups).
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