Which Panhard Rod?

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Jun 24, 2008 | 09:36 AM
  #1  
As title says, which one?
I need an adjustable, which company? Should i consider the roded ends? Is chromoly worth it?
Is there any company that offers rubber bushing instead of poly?

Need input?
Thanks
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Jun 24, 2008 | 11:24 AM
  #2  
No need for rubber bushings on a panhard rod. Bind is not an issue, it only moves in one plane.

If you go rod end, unbalanced engineering makes a nice one. http://www.unbalancedengineering.com/Camaro/PHR/
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Jun 24, 2008 | 01:04 PM
  #3  
I only want rubber because of the noise and vibes. I had a poly trans mount and hated it. Took it out the very next day after it was put in. I have poly in both sides of my lca's and dont like them either. I dont want any poly bushings in my car.
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Jun 24, 2008 | 02:18 PM
  #4  
Your not going to be able to tell the difference between a poly-ended panhard bar and a rubber one, if your really wanting the rubber, maybe you can take the old ones out of your stock bar.

If your looking for a cheap adjustable, jeg's has one of their brand, jegsters for like 89 bucks
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Jun 24, 2008 | 02:37 PM
  #5  
Quote: Your not going to be able to tell the difference between a poly-ended panhard bar and a rubber one, if your really wanting the rubber, maybe you can take the old ones out of your stock bar.

If your looking for a cheap adjustable, jeg's has one of their brand, jegsters for like 89 bucks

I don't agree. In fact once upon a time I had the same rubbing with a poly bushed tubular PHB as I did with a stock bar w/stock bushings (big tires). It all ended with a rod-ended unit.

For the cost of a PHB (little) I really don't see an issue with spending a few bucks more. The strongest are double rod-ended ones. Units like the UMI we sell that use good rod-ends are not noisy, and often don't make any noise. Cheap rod-ends can make horrendous racket (and in fact new rod-ends that are cheap can and do sound like baby rattles when you shake them). I have no issue with a double rod-end unit on my car, or in most any other case.

If you are worried, then one of the single adjustables that UMI builds might be better. They have one rod-end and one bushing (body side) to isolate any potential noise from the body, and you still get less deflection since there isn't as "bushing" to deflect because one end has a rod-end.
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Jun 24, 2008 | 03:03 PM
  #6  
I tried to call you sam, twice this morning. The order line and tech advice. You guys out of town?

Would you reccomend a double adj, chromoly?
The reason why i am buying one is the put 295/35/18's in the rear. THey rub like crazy, I have pounded the f ing snot out of each wheel well, TWICE!!. Now they dont rub as bad when cornering or on WOT but if i try i can get them to rub. I dont want that any more.

The car has koni's from you, BMR lca's and subframes. No other suspension or chasis mods.
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Jun 24, 2008 | 04:20 PM
  #7  
Did you leave a message? I'm here, but kind of busy... I have 4 incoming phone lines + e-mail + PM's + paperwork.... I just can't answer the phone all the time. And I can't know if you called unless you leave a message.

Bear in mind that if you are rubbing equally on both sides that it could as much wheel offset and tire size as it is the PHB flexing. A good PHB can only do so much, and it can't fit incorrect fitments.
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Jun 24, 2008 | 05:03 PM
  #8  
Naw im not a message person.

As for the tires.
I am almost sure the offset is correct. They are zo6 replica's, they only rub a little bit, even on both sides. A buddy who sold em to me has a 99 vettel, 94z28,01 ws6, and a 93 cobra.

He knows his stuff, he initally thought that they were the wrong offset. But when I told him they only rub a bit he didnt think it was the offset anymore.

He said if they were the wrong offset I would of deastroyed the tires very quickly. Or they would of been sticking out way too far. My car has 118k on it and he thinks its the bushings that are shot and thats the reason im rubbing on the inside of the tires. He says the body movement is whats getting me, if i had newer bushings i wouldnt get as much body roll.

Does this seem right? I think it makes sense.
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Jun 24, 2008 | 05:45 PM
  #9  
The only "correct" offset is stock, on stock wheels. Those wheels and tires never came on a car stock, so "correct" is simply a matter of what works. And what works varies. Some folks get a little rub and don't care. Some freak out. Some other guy's tires might be 1/2" narrower in section width with the same rim offset/size and because of that tire, never rub.

I will not promise you the PHB will cure your issue. It will help it, and might stop it, but frankly speaking you have to dot your i's and cross your t's here. If you are rubbing it can only be from movement or fitment, or a combination of both. A PHB is cheaper than new wheels and worth a shot to me.
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Jun 25, 2008 | 09:21 AM
  #10  
I think it will help with lateral movement a lot. I'm not sure it will cure my issue but i know it will help. I think the panhard rod arm, a few new bushings, and some 1/4 or 1/8 inch spacers will do me up just right.

Im going to give you a call sam to discuss this in greater detail.
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