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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 04:48 PM
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Vacuum lines, rubber elbows, and age.....

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This is more of an FYI than anything.....

My engine has 97,XXX miles on it and is 12 years old. In pulling the engine for my CC503 swap, I have found rubber elbows crumbling, not sealing, and just in general disarray. Now, the kicker to all this, is that you can't see some of this...many of the bad spots are in the 90* on the back side.

IMHO, any type of crumbling part linked up with the manifold is a bad thing. It sets up for unmetered air to enter the system. Now, this is not always the case, but in general, cracked and worn out rubber parts are not good.

Just something to keep in mind as these things age.






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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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I've got some of those same hoses crumbling....just haven't gotten around to replacing them. Can you get new ones or do you just have to get random bends and fix it yourself?
Old Jul 20, 2008 | 07:11 PM
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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throw all that stuff away
Old Jul 21, 2008 | 08:00 AM
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Where did you go to get those vacuum lines? I need to replace that EVAP one and the one for the fuel lines asap.

Do you remember what sizes they are?
Old Aug 18, 2008 | 11:57 PM
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Where did you go to get those vacuum lines? I need to replace that EVAP one and the one for the fuel lines asap.

Do you remember what sizes they are?
I got all the hoses successfully from GM. The only one I'm having trouble with is the heater core hoses....of all things.....on national back order until October!!
Old Aug 19, 2008 | 12:19 AM
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From where, a dealership? Only one I need is the one that goes into the passenger side of the throttle body, or as far as I can see at least. I know it isn't causing my misfire, but it's something I should replace I've been putting off trying to find. I haven't even started throwing parts at this car yet to fix the problem.
Old Aug 19, 2008 | 12:29 AM
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From where, a dealership? Only one I need is the one that goes into the passenger side of the throttle body, or as far as I can see at least. I know it isn't causing my misfire, but it's something I should replace I've been putting off trying to find. I haven't even started throwing parts at this car yet to fix the problem.
I got them from....

http://www.newgmparts.com/

Shipping is more reasonable than from gmpartsdirect.com. They were charging $45 to ship a $5 hose.... It was the "S" hose in my second pic above....I think you can see the rip off in that shipping charge.



Right click and view image if you can't see the third line....

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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 12:39 AM
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o wow that shipping is ridiculous. Thanks for the tip

I went to pep boys to try and find a same size hose but I couldnt.
Old Aug 19, 2008 | 01:03 AM
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does anyone know the part number for that passenger side / TB hose (the one in the first pic) ?
Old Aug 19, 2008 | 02:03 AM
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does anyone know the part number for that passenger side / TB hose (the one in the first pic) ?
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 09:10 AM
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thanks ace.
Old Aug 19, 2008 | 11:03 AM
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With the age of these cars...

and the fact that so many of us keep them on the road for a long time (with rebuilds, good maintenance, etc.), we are all likely in need of replacing the whole set of rubber hoses.

It would make a lot of sense to lobby some quality aftermarket supplier to make and sell a top-end rubber hose kit. Going to the dealership to be raped by increments for parts that are often worth about $2.00 each is just crazy. Never mind the hassle of tracking them all down individually.

Anyone know a supplier that could stand a friendly nudge to start making such a kit?
Old Aug 19, 2008 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by rbaksi
does anyone know the part number for that passenger side / TB hose (the one in the first pic) ?
Not saying this is a great fix, but I just used a 90* spark plug boot and it fit pretty snug. The small end isn't really tight, but it does seal.
Old Aug 19, 2008 | 09:50 PM
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lol, I've actually got a few boots lying around, I'll have to try that.



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