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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 07:29 PM
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Best shocks for handling/cornering ?? (Sam Strano ???)

I am going to go with Eibach ProKit Performance Springs and I need s good set of shocks. All I want is good handling and cornering (I don’t care about drag strip times )....but I don’t want the very rough ride, but something between....

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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 08:13 PM
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I'm teetering between the 1LE w/Koni DA or the LG coil over setup. I've been advised the adjustability of the Koni can be a downfall: overkill in the ability to tweek it over and over again in search of the better mix. A total of eight adjustment options. Too many considerations as far as adjustment. It may be better to have one shock setting and have the driver make the multiple adjustments.

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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 08:15 PM
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I'd not do anything until I spoke with Sam Strano - http://www.stranoparts.com
He has set up many of us here and we are happy customers! Check my 4th gen set-up in the sig.
Old Oct 29, 2003 | 11:28 PM
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LG's coil overs still rank #1 in my book after all the car's I've been in. Its one of the one mods I don't regret spendin the money for.
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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 06:31 AM
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Koni DA's have more than eight possible settings; there are 12 positions on the bump and 12 on rebound, making for 144 possible combinations.

A friend has the LG coil overs are they are NICE. If I only had the money.
Old Oct 31, 2003 | 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by Steve Dunn
I'm teetering between the 1LE w/Koni DA or the LG coil over setup. I've been advised the adjustability of the Koni can be a downfall: overkill in the ability to tweek it over and over again in search of the better mix. A total of eight adjustment options. Too many considerations as far as adjustment. It may be better to have one shock setting and have the driver make the multiple adjustments.
Steve and I spoke yesterday, so I'm answering here more for everyone else's info....

First off the two setups you mentioned are COMPLETELY different. One uses a lot more shock with a lot less spring (the 1LE), the other is quite the opposite, using stiff springs (REALLY stiff in the rear IMHO) and just linear valved shocks that can't be adjusted. Comparing apples to apples would be a start.

As I recommended yesterday, I believe you ought to run a slip on coil-over kit *with* Koni's. This gives you all the benefits of corner weighting, spring rate choice, and ride height choice along with adjustable damping. Now, it's your choice to run DA's or SA's. Again, I usually recommend SA's as the rebound is the more critical component to a car's response and stability.

Other things to be considered, and this is my opinion based on having driven other coil-over kits and knowing the shock valving: I 100% feel the G2 kit uses the spring rates it does to make up for the lack of low-speed shock damping. There isn't much happening in those shocks when you are turning it and the body it rolling or pitching. Which means to get feel out of the car, one would have to run more spring rate. Fine, and a valid way of thinking. However, I think that's missing the boat. First off, you are running an artificially high rate to cover for a weakness in another part. The higher rate goes against the old rule of thumb that you want to run a soft as spring as is feasible. Anything more hurts mechanical grip. This is where the arguement of camber control comes into play. If you are trying to control roll, and keep you contact patch in check swaybar are MUCH more effective than springs are.

In the end, here's what we're after. A balanced setup (taking into account bars, springs, tires, etc.) that responds the way you want (which is why adjustable shocks are important), and gives you security. I say if you can do it for less money and get adjustable damping in the process, despite how much you use it, it's a no-brainer. Don't forget that simple things like just changing tire brands, driving style, other mods and a zillion other little things change a car's behavior. Being able to tweak that is in my mind, nothing but smart.
Old Oct 31, 2003 | 11:31 AM
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Thanks SAM!!!

Originally posted by 01 FS Z28
Steve and I spoke yesterday, so I'm answering here more for everyone else's info....

First off the two setups you mentioned are COMPLETELY different. One uses a lot more shock with a lot less spring (the 1LE), the other is quite the opposite, using stiff springs (REALLY stiff in the rear IMHO) and just linear valved shocks that can't be adjusted. Comparing apples to apples would be a start.

As I recommended yesterday, I believe you ought to run a slip on coil-over kit *with* Koni's. This gives you all the benefits of corner weighting, spring rate choice, and ride height choice along with adjustable damping. Now, it's your choice to run DA's or SA's. Again, I usually recommend SA's as the rebound is the more critical component to a car's response and stability.

Other things to be considered, and this is my opinion based on having driven other coil-over kits and knowing the shock valving: I 100% feel the G2 kit uses the spring rates it does to make up for the lack of low-speed shock damping. There isn't much happening in those shocks when you are turning it and the body it rolling or pitching. Which means to get feel out of the car, one would have to run more spring rate. Fine, and a valid way of thinking. However, I think that's missing the boat. First off, you are running an artificially high rate to cover for a weakness in another part. The higher rate goes against the old rule of thumb that you want to run a soft as spring as is feasible. Anything more hurts mechanical grip. This is where the arguement of camber control comes into play. If you are trying to control roll, and keep you contact patch in check swaybar are MUCH more effective than springs are.

In the end, here's what we're after. A balanced setup (taking into account bars, springs, tires, etc.) that responds the way you want (which is why adjustable shocks are important), and gives you security. I say if you can do it for less money and get adjustable damping in the process, despite how much you use it, it's a no-brainer. Don't forget that simple things like just changing tire brands, driving style, other mods and a zillion other little things change a car's behavior. Being able to tweak that is in my mind, nothing but smart.
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