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***NOS LAUNCHER***new nitrous controller

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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 02:08 PM
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***NOS LAUNCHER***new nitrous controller

We are proud to present the NOS Launcher.

It combines all the functions a nitrous racer could ever want into one easy to use controller. It can control up to 4 stages and can be programmed with either a laptop computer or an availible full coler 3.5" LCD touchscreen. It is availible in 3 configurations.

1) Controller only (15977NOS) $357.50...requires laptop



2) Controller w/handheld controller (15976NOS) $464.10



3) Controller w/3.5" LCD Touch-screen (15975NOS) $706.32



Instruction manual...
http://www.holley.com/data/Products/.../199R10466.pdf

This gives you RPM, Time, or MAP based ramping, Data logging capability, will integrate with a wideband for A/F shut off. For the money this looks to be one of the most versatile and powerfull controllers on the market.

Fully programmable via laptop
Availible with 3.5" LCD touch screen for the ultimate in looks and programming (no laptop needed)
Compatible with Windows 2000, MA, XP and Vista
Easy to use graphical software
free software and firmware updates
Availible handheld controller w/SD card slot and USB for quick changes
Ability to save files for easy setup for different tracks/weather conditions
built in 2 stage control with ability to upgrade to 4 stages
Integrated TPS activation
2 programmable inputs
Internal MAP sensor for boost referencing control
40a per stage
gear lock out
2 1a generel purpose outputs....timing retard, etc
Availible Lean/rich shut off
Pause option...will resume ramp in a pedaling situation instead of starting over

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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 02:40 PM
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Ray, I've wondered how long the solenoids last when using a progressive controller? Seems like they wouldn't last long being cycled on and off rapidly like that. I assume that's what's being done to ramp up the hit.

They do look like well thought-out kits though.
Old Nov 7, 2007 | 02:55 PM
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The newer solenoids are actually designed to be progressed....the coils and plunger material will hold up to the rapid cycling.

Also if you are using a progressive correctly the solenoids will not be cycling long...mine is usually set to ramp less than 2 seconds.
Old Nov 7, 2007 | 06:09 PM
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In your deatails you mention this, 2 1a generel purpose outputs....timing retard, etc Is that like a timing tuner?
Old Nov 7, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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it is a 1a ground trigger wire only....for example:

I have the MSD digital6 it has timing retard built in but uses a 12v trigger to activate....I can use the output from the NOS Launcher to trigger a relay to give the MSD a 12v source to activate the timing retard when the kit goes active
Old Nov 7, 2007 | 07:47 PM
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Well, I have their WS which has a 2 stage built in.. but, I dont have the 2 stage plate system. So, I am trying to figure out if this has the capability to start out as a 100 shot out of the hole, then progress to the 200 shot (max for the kit I have) by half track or so. If so, how will it pull the other 2* (2* taken out now at the moment for the 100 shot) when it starts progressing..

And when deactivated, will it add the 4* back while running N/A...

New to the progressive control systems, just trying to figure out. Thanks.
Old Nov 8, 2007 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by waterbug1999
Well, I have their WS which has a 2 stage built in.. but, I dont have the 2 stage plate system. So, I am trying to figure out if this has the capability to start out as a 100 shot out of the hole, then progress to the 200 shot (max for the kit I have) by half track or so. If so, how will it pull the other 2* (2* taken out now at the moment for the 100 shot) when it starts progressing..

And when deactivated, will it add the 4* back while running N/A...

New to the progressive control systems, just trying to figure out. Thanks.
If you are running a single stage, you would pull the max timing out from the start.

For example: I pull 8* for the 200 shot I am running...when the kit goes active the MSD pulls all 8*....the progressive then ramps the power in according to the settings....when the kit is not active there is no timing pulled.

What are you using to pull timing with?
Old Nov 8, 2007 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Ray@NitroDaves
If you are running a single stage, you would pull the max timing out from the start.

For example: I pull 8* for the 200 shot I am running...when the kit goes active the MSD pulls all 8*....the progressive then ramps the power in according to the settings....when the kit is not active there is no timing pulled.

What are you using to pull timing with?
Right now, I take 2* out with EFI live (A buddy pulled 2* out as he is the one who has efilive) and leave it.. So, I have to run N/A with some retard as well which the cars looses 25-30hp (dynoed showed this)..
Old Nov 8, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by waterbug1999
Right now, I take 2* out with EFI live (A buddy pulled 2* out as he is the one who has efilive) and leave it.. So, I have to run N/A with some retard as well which the cars looses 25-30hp (dynoed showed this)..


that will work but as you know leaves you with less NA power...you could add either the timing tuner or the MSD timing twister...with either of those you would be able to run full timing NA and only pull timing when the nitrous kit is active.
Old Nov 8, 2007 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Ray@NitroDaves
that will work but as you know leaves you with less NA power...you could add either the timing tuner or the MSD timing twister...with either of those you would be able to run full timing NA and only pull timing when the nitrous kit is active.
Or, just get yalls 2 stage plate and noids and just hit 100 shot off the line then 100 shot (200 total) half track and take 4-5* out..

Would it be necassary (SP) to progress it?
Old Nov 8, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Ray@NitroDaves
that will work but as you know leaves you with less NA power...you could add either the timing tuner or the MSD timing twister...with either of those you would be able to run full timing NA and only pull timing when the nitrous kit is active.
But, does the device you have advertised, take timing out when activated and back to normal when de-activated?
Old Nov 8, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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But, does the device you have advertised, take timing out when activated and back to normal when de-activated?
No...the NOS launcher does not pull timing...it only triggers your timing box
Old Nov 8, 2007 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ray@NitroDaves
No...the NOS launcher does not pull timing...it only triggers your timing box
Sorry, but off topic here... I have talked to you guys several times, at the track about the window switch and a few other times..
But, thinking I want to add the 2nd stage. So, can you give me a run down on parts I will need to add the 2nd stage? I am assuming that I will need the 2 stage plate along with some extra noids?

Do you "T" off the main line to the extra noid or do you have to run a whole new bottle and main line?
Old Nov 8, 2007 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by waterbug1999
Sorry, but off topic here... I have talked to you guys several times, at the track about the window switch and a few other times..
But, thinking I want to add the 2nd stage. So, can you give me a run down on parts I will need to add the 2nd stage? I am assuming that I will need the 2 stage plate along with some extra noids?

Do you "T" off the main line to the extra noid or do you have to run a whole new bottle and main line?

this is the easiest way...

http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/catalog...roduct_id=2587
and
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/catalog...product_id=997

this will "T" off the nitrous and fuel feed lines
Old Nov 9, 2007 | 11:05 AM
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Easiest, but is it the best Ray? What would you recommend. Thanks



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