previously i posted whats below, trying to figure out how i can get more hp for my money after pricing out everything to run a LE 3 head/cam setup with LE ported intake manifold and it came out around $5500-6000 with used parts and not making as much HP as i would like for this money....

-Impala head gasket
-head bolts
-intake manifold bolts
-valve cover gaskets, intake manifold gasket, header gaskets (~$150 for first 4 items brand new)

-GM hi-tech pushrods -(~$75-100)

-Comp R lifters (~$250)

-Electric waterpump and Double roller timing chain set (not sure on this one but guessing around 300 new)

-vigilante 3600 stall converter (~$600)

-3.73 or 4.10 gears (~$250 with install kit)

-Shift kit for trans (~$80)

-160 degree termostat (~$50)

-Flowmaster X-pipe (`$80)

-58 mm TB (~$250-300)

-1 3/4 headers (~$450)

-42 lb/hr injectors (~$275-300)

-1.6 Comp 7/16 Rocker arms (~$300 with studs and guideplates)

-walbro 340 fuel pump (~$100)

-cam bearings (guessing ~$50)

-Dyno Tune (~$400)

-LE 3 heads, LE 2 cam, LE ported intake ($2000)

-Trans cooler (~$100)

**i'm sure there other stuff im missing too but that alone comes out to around $5560.... estimating a little high on a couple items i'm sure but thats also not including any suspension components...

But i was thinking, what if I were to just go with the LE 1 head/cam package and run the stock intake manifold saving me $900, plus then I would be saving $250 on the lifters by running the stock lifters. Then i could just spend about $800 on a nitrous kit (100 shot, dry) with all the safety stuff and some accessories (msd window switch, etc).... I know the LE 1 head/cam package ussually makes around 370rwhp, so with the 100 shot that should put me around 460-480rwhp, with stock intake manifold, would by my guess. WOULD THAT PUT ME IN THE HIGH 10s AND ACTUALLY AROUND THAT MUCH HP??? I'm just looking at it this way because that seems like it would make a additional 50-60rwhp over the LE 3 head/cam setup alone and in the long run be a $350 cheaper..... Also, how reliable will this be, i really don't want to break anything on the shortblock for a while being that I dont have the money to build that yet???

 

If its going to be seeing hard launches at the track then you're going to need a 12 bolt to handle the power. with the spray i would think its capable of 10s or at least low 11s with great traction.

 

Ya need an intake that will flow with the heads or they won't make the HP they are capable of. I feel you will need at least a 150 shot and EVERY upgrade you have above to run in the 10's unless your car weighs 3000lbs with driver.

Ditto on the rear end,drive shaft and tires. Ya will need suspension work also to get the 60' into the 1.30's.Also a trans brake or a GOOD clutch.
Weelie bars so when ya leave it don't stand on the bumper.

 

I guess even with the ported intake ($150), i would still be $200 under what I am looking at paying for LE 3 heads, with a LE 2 cam.... I dunno about having to run a 1.3 60' to hit high 10s cuz there's a lot of people around here running head/cam packages similiar to the LE 2 package and there ussually hitting between 11.3-11.7 with 400-420 rwhp with only 1.5-1.7 60's, so techniquiely if the 100 shot puts me around 470 rwhp i dont think the 60' being only a 1.7 should be a issue, reason i'm saying this is because I dont want to swap the rear end being that i am trying to keep this all under a $6k budget, and am only trying to hit high 10s, as in 10.9..... HAS ANYONE DONE A SETUP SIMILIAR TO THIS, IS IT REALISTIC TO PUT DOWN 470 RWHP WITH THE LE 1 HEAD/CAM PACKAGE, PORTED MANIFOLD, AND A 100 SHOT?

EDIT: thinking about that again, I take that back. The car that car 11.3s was stripped, but 11.6-11.7 with 400-410rwhp and 1.6-1.7 60fts with almost full weight is pretty common, but anyway is 470 rwhp realistic with the upgrades above??

 

i'm trying to avoid having to push harder launches that 1.6-1.7 60 fts, and don't plan on spraying out of the hole... so hopefully the 10 bolt should be capable of handling for it for a while.

 

anyone got an idea of 470 rwhp is realistic?????

 

Yea 470 is realistic with enough hose and ya ain't gonna get there at 470 if your 60' isn't in the high 1.3's or low 1.4's and it takes a brake or a Good clutch to do it,rear end,driveshaft, 10" slicks and luck and suspension mod's.
If ya run 1.6 ya don't have enough HP to run the number.
Without a forged bottom end and pistons and major tuning you can't put enough hose to it to run the number. If it does run it once it won't last long.
The stripped car you said ran 11.3's OK,but you are 4-500lbs heavier and every 100lbs is a .10 and you want to run .04 quicker than him.

Think About It.

 

i've got all those mods you listed and all forged 383 stroker kit 11.8 to 1 compression and le3 h/c with le ported intake. I'm hoping to get low 11's. I tried to see what others have ran with similar mods but not many people have taken their le3 h/c to the track or still putting their motor together.

 

I doubt it. If the track is less than 100 miles from home get Triple A Plus (they tow up to 100 miles), before you try it out.

 

Yeah you're right, i guess I didnt think about it like that... WHAT DO YOU THINK I WOULD RUN WITH THE EVERYTHING ABOVE AND A 100 SHOT AND A 1.7 60'??(dont really want to run much more than that on the stock bottom end, but hopefully that put me around 470rwhp which is still about 50-60hp more than I would get with the LE 3 head/LE 2 cam setup which will cost more money to do)

 

I got the tow package with my insurance company , but hopefully i'll have some luck and that rear end will hold up with 1.7 60 fts... my friends uncle has a 94 Z and he's been pushing 1.7 60fts for a few years now with more runs in that time than I can count.

 

i wouldn't even attemp it unless you plan on waiting for a rear end. That thing WILL NOT take the abuse. I don't care if you baby it off the line, as soon as you hit WOT and that shot of juice, it's gone. Maybe not the first time or the second but it will happen. Ask James (camaro4lifess). He broke his when he hit second gear. Ask another buddy of mine, he broke his with street tires.

 

Double it and buy good parts.

 

Mid 11's would be my guess.Thats leaving as hard as you can and driving like ya stole it.

 

Was that with a A4 or M6?