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kaoticcamaross 07-12-2006 10:49 AM

Will Descreening the MAF cause a knock
 
Cause mine been descreen for about 3 years now and I have noticed recently a really back knock in the engine. Could be that the engine is getting old and has 150,000 on it, but I'm just trying to get some input. It's a 95 A4 with SLP CAI, PCM tunning, 1le elbow, slp LM exhaust and thats about it.

BUBBA 07-12-2006 11:12 AM

Re: Will Descreening the MAF cause a knock
 
While not an advocate of descreened MAFs, I doubt that it is your current problem. Having said this about that, I would have it analysed ASAP and do run it until you resolve your knocking....JMHO:cool:

"White Knight" 07-12-2006 12:46 PM

Re: Will Descreening the MAF cause a knock
 
I haven't heard of it causing knock.

matLT1 07-12-2006 12:49 PM

Re: Will Descreening the MAF cause a knock
 
I had a similar problem with my car. Every once in a while I would get a random misfire through the intake (about twice a week). I also would get a bit of a knock that sounded like it was a hollow sound coming from the exhaust. I replaced the MAF and about a week later the problem went away. You could call it coinicidence, but I believe the car needed to 'learn' the new parameters.

1racerdude 07-12-2006 01:03 PM

Re: Will Descreening the MAF cause a knock
 
De screening allows in more air and could make it run a tad leaner and thus the preignition "knock" if indeed that is the "knock".

subhumanzz 07-12-2006 01:18 PM

Re: Will Descreening the MAF cause a knock
 
ive had mine done for about 6 months now and have noticed no adverse effects.

kaoticcamaross 07-12-2006 02:16 PM

Re: Will Descreening the MAF cause a knock
 
Ok well maybe the knock is not from descreening the MAF. I just can't figure out what would cause the knock. I know it's not running lean and the PCM is programmed with the descreened MAF in mind. The car actually runs rich when going down the track cause at shift points black smoke puffs out the exhaust.

Injuneer 07-12-2006 02:25 PM

Re: Will Descreening the MAF cause a knock
 

Originally Posted by 1racerdude
De screening allows in more air and could make it run a tad leaner and thus the preignition "knock" if indeed that is the "knock".

If removing the screen truly did increase air flow, the MAF sensor would pick it up, and the PCM would add the extra fuel. Even if the MAF didn't measure the (miniscule :) ) increase in air flow, the long term fuel corrections would have no trouble correcting for it. I doubt its running lean, and the "knock" he is describing sounds like it may be more like a bearing knock than detonation.

ulakovic22 07-12-2006 02:26 PM

Re: Will Descreening the MAF cause a knock
 
When you are running at the track you are in PE mode so it will run rich. It's totally different when you're driving on the street. Noticing a knock from the engine is bad. Is it a pinging sound when you are accelerating or is it a knocking noise coming from the engine all the time? If it's all the time you're in trouble.

kaoticcamaross 07-12-2006 02:34 PM

Re: Will Descreening the MAF cause a knock
 
It's coming from the engine bay and its really only noticeable at idle specially say stoped at a red light.

ulakovic22 07-12-2006 02:37 PM

Re: Will Descreening the MAF cause a knock
 
Does it knock in tune with the RPM? I think you should start saving your money for some sort of engine work :(

kaoticcamaross 07-12-2006 02:39 PM

Re: Will Descreening the MAF cause a knock
 
When it does knock yes it does in tune with the RPM. But it does it then stops then does it and then stops it's not constant and like I said only at idle.

1racerdude 07-12-2006 02:44 PM

Re: Will Descreening the MAF cause a knock
 
Ya won't here spark knock at idle. May be a rocker or worse.

Injuneer,
Ya are right,that's why ya are the computer guru. I was thinking more of tip in fuel at the initial WOT.

kaoticcamaross 07-12-2006 02:46 PM

Re: Will Descreening the MAF cause a knock
 
what would be worse?

Mtrhds94Z 07-12-2006 02:50 PM

Re: Will Descreening the MAF cause a knock
 

Originally Posted by kaoticcamaross
what would be worse?

Bearings [rod/main]


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