What kind of rear wheel are we seeing in 383's?

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Feb 13, 2003 | 09:27 PM
  #31  
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Originally posted by INTMD8
I do have a dyno graph and a scanner but I'm not sure how to post it.

Maybe I could email it to someone?
Email me, I'll host it. aa4d@erols.com

-Alex
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Feb 14, 2003 | 01:41 AM
  #32  
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Originally posted by WS6T3RROR
MPH IS THE BIGGEST INDICATOR OF HP
E.T. Is almost all traction and vehichle, and btw your mph is more consistant with a car that has 310-320 rwhp (i'm being generous). if you were actually turning out that kind of rwhp you should be doing over 112 easy.
Since reading comprehension isn't your strong point, I have an A4, which is listed in my sig. I also bounce off the rev limiter on my 2-3 shift thanks to the obd1 and big stall problem, but you probably knew that since you are a genius. Should I have a higher mph? Maybe I would if I didn't run at GIR or MAR. I'll look forward to seeing you and YOUR almighty car at either facility this spring.

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Originally posted by WS6T3RROR
He didnt know the answer to his question(didnt do very good on reading for comprehension in school did you).
Obviously, you didn't read his estimated output in his first post, so I will post again for you.

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Originally posted by SStrokerAce
My guess is that his 6 speed car will get 430-450rwhp on a budget, but I'm wondering what people have already picked up.

Thanks,

Bret
Bauer Racing Engines

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Originally posted by WS6T3RROR
yes theres a lot of variables
Wow, we agree on something!!



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Originally posted by WS6T3RROR
for a guy that knows that theres so many variables you left out a couple but.. why should i educate you.
Yes I left out a few, but he should know what they are since he was in the last engine masters challenge. Why should I explain them to someone with so much knowledge?
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Feb 14, 2003 | 02:30 AM
  #33  
The heads are going to be a big part of this engine.

They are around 215cc, which people around here seem to thing are big. It's a fuel injected motor, and it's 383 cubes, that runner size, RPM range and HP level seem to be perfect to me. Actually it's the effective diameter of the ports that I look at and for the cubes, it's are not very big. If I was expecting 600+HP from it I would rather have a 230-240cc port that flowed 330cfm, something like a AFR 215RR (BTW is actually 235cc in CNC trim) That would work muchg better.

Hogged out heads that flow well still have high velocity, and when they are teamed with a "small" cam they will produce much better numbers in my experince.

Coats, You could get some killer numbers out of your 383 with a set of TEA LT1's, those exhaust flow numbers they have love N2O!

Bret
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Feb 14, 2003 | 06:34 AM
  #34  
I have a couple of things to say: So a true measure of HP is MPH? So you would rather say"I ran 118 MPH but geez I just cant break into the 12's.." "Or would you say my car ran 118 MPH and ran a 11.6 in the 1/4.." Traction and vechile over HP? Like it has been mentioned to me by Eddie in the Texas Forum... I would not be bragging about running 104.6 MPH trap speeds. Sure that might be nothing but then again my car is running in the high 12's. And at SLP Day in Ennis tomorrow I look to get it down in the 12.7xx's range with still being only 275 RWHP. I guess you dont need 450RWHP if you cant run a 1/4 mile worth a crap.

Second there is a fix for the OBD1 High Stall problem. It has been posted many times on this board and it works just fine. I saw it work about 2 1/2 weeks ago on my friends 94 Z with a 3800 Vigilante.
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Feb 14, 2003 | 07:25 AM
  #35  
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Originally posted by ucrazymonkey
I have a couple of things to say: So a true measure of HP is MPH? So you would rather say"I ran 118 MPH but geez I just cant break into the 12's.." "Or would you say my car ran 118 MPH and ran a 11.6 in the 1/4.." Traction and vechile over HP? Like it has been mentioned to me by Eddie in the Texas Forum... I would not be bragging about running 104.6 MPH trap speeds. Sure that might be nothing but then again my car is running in the high 12's. And at SLP Day in Ennis tomorrow I look to get it down in the 12.7xx's range with still being only 275 RWHP. I guess you dont need 450RWHP if you cant run a 1/4 mile worth a crap.
Well drag racing is just that, racing. So when I hear that a guy claims 500hp in a 3500lbs car and runs a 108, he's lying.

ET is traction, the better grip you have and the parts to take it the faster you go.

My only trips to the strip so far have been with stock tires and ****ty 60 ft's, so a 13.3 @ 108 is all I get, once I put some DR's on it, and some suspension tricks and maybe a clutch I can take alot of time out of that, 12.5 w/ a 108 speed seems good, but my mph is going to stay about the same. I came from small cars and autoX, where it's all driver and some car. It's still about traction though, if you want better times, get better tires.

On the other end of that, doing everything on street tires is more realisitc when you run into someone on the street. Lord knows that DR's are not fun in the rain.

Bret
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Feb 14, 2003 | 07:25 AM
  #36  
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Originally posted by ucrazymonkey
I have a couple of things to say: So a true measure of HP is MPH? So you would rather say"I ran 118 MPH but geez I just cant break into the 12's.." "Or would you say my car ran 118 MPH and ran a 11.6 in the 1/4.." Traction and vechile over HP? Like it has been mentioned to me by Eddie in the Texas Forum... I would not be bragging about running 104.6 MPH trap speeds. Sure that might be nothing but then again my car is running in the high 12's. And at SLP Day in Ennis tomorrow I look to get it down in the 12.7xx's range with still being only 275 RWHP. I guess you dont need 450RWHP if you cant run a 1/4 mile worth a crap.
Well drag racing is just that, racing. So when I hear that a guy claims 500hp in a 3500lbs car and runs a 108, he's lying.

ET is traction, the better grip you have and the parts to take it the faster you go.

My only trips to the strip so far have been with stock tires and ****ty 60 ft's, so a 13.3 @ 108 is all I get, once I put some DR's on it, and some suspension tricks and maybe a clutch I can take alot of time out of that, 12.5 w/ a 108 speed seems good, but my mph is going to stay about the same. I came from small cars and autoX, where it's all driver and some car. It's still about traction though, if you want better times, get better tires.

On the other end of that, doing everything on street tires is more realisitc when you run into someone on the street. Lord knows that DR's are not fun in the rain.

Bret
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Feb 14, 2003 | 08:51 AM
  #37  
"Deja vu, all over again." --Yogi Berra
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Feb 14, 2003 | 11:32 AM
  #38  
http://www.afrashteh.com/intmd8-dyno-383.jpg

Intmd8's dyno run...dip is from fuel issues.

I would like to see the highest dyno numbers made on a street driven stroker, N/A, with a hydraulic roller.

-Alex
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Feb 14, 2003 | 11:52 AM
  #39  
damn
I suck
I'm aiming for 400rwhp on my 383 with ported LT1 castings (265-270cfm@.550, good mid/low lift numbers) and an Xe 236/242 on 112LSA and an A4.

maybe i'm not being optimistic enough.
I'd **** my pants with 430rwhp.
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Feb 14, 2003 | 12:52 PM
  #40  
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Originally posted by a_z28_vance
Since reading comprehension isn't your strong point, I have an A4, which is listed in my sig. I also bounce off the rev limiter on my 2-3 shift thanks to the obd1 and big stall problem, but you probably knew that since you are a genius. Should I have a higher mph? Maybe I would if I didn't run at GIR or MAR..
well there you go your e.t. would be faster IF coulda, woulda, shoulda. if i trap 140mph i can say if i had this and that and my tires were the best ever made and my car didnt stumble blah blah blah then i wouldnt be running a 13 with a XXXrwhp car. the point is mph shows what power your engine is making. and unless these tracks are uphill.... i dont see how they can affect your mph a whole hell of a lot unless they're high elevation

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Originally posted by a_z28_vance
I'll look forward to seeing you and YOUR almighty car at either facility this spring. .
my "almighty car" doesnt get out much and fyi it aint the t/a. its a pro street malibu with a bbc that runs mid 9's. when you can catch it then you can talk ****.

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Originally posted by a_z28_vance
Obviously, you didn't read his estimated output in his first post, so I will post again for you.
he put his estimated output for what he's going to build for the guy. he didnt ask what you thought he would put down he asked what everyone else was puting down rwhp wise. then you talked down to him.
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Feb 17, 2003 | 09:53 PM
  #41  
My opinion and this is just an opinion..... but alot of LT guys are down on power. There really isn't any kind of rocket science to making 450 rwhp out of a 383-396 small block. You don't need 250 @.050 cams or 7500 rpms... you just need a well thought out combination. The biggest.... hoggiest ported heads will be down on power, trust me, I use to belong to the bigger-is-better crowd.

I just layed down 649 hp at the crank with a 383 turning to 6600 rpm. I wish I could take credit for the put-together on this combination but I can't. The guy who did is much smarter than I am. Anyways, it can be done. You need a good head though.... not Cavernous, but excellent.

-Mindgame
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Feb 17, 2003 | 10:20 PM
  #42  
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Originally posted by Mindgame
My opinion and this is just an opinion..... but alot of LT guys are down on power. There really isn't any kind of rocket science to making 450 rwhp out of a 383-396 small block. You don't need 250 @.050 cams or 7500 rpms... you just need a well thought out combination. The biggest.... hoggiest ported heads will be down on power, trust me, I use to belong to the bigger-is-better crowd.

I just layed down 649 hp at the crank with a 383 turning to 6600 rpm. I wish I could take credit for the put-together on this combination but I can't. The guy who did is much smarter than I am. Anyways, it can be done. You need a good head though.... not Cavernous, but excellent.

-Mindgame
im guessing its NOT na?
thats over 100hp/liter

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Feb 17, 2003 | 10:27 PM
  #43  
No Trey, this engine is n/a. I wouldn't have it any other way.

15 degree heads ported by our own Chuck Riddeck, a hydraulic roller ground to Mr. R's specs and a heavily modified LT4 intake built buy a local race engine builder. Nothing too fancy for the rest of the combination... a lightweight BME piston with Speed Pro rings, Howards connecting rods, etc.

-Mindgame
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Feb 17, 2003 | 11:13 PM
  #44  
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Originally posted by Mindgame
No Trey, this engine is n/a. I wouldn't have it any other way.

15 degree heads ported by our own Chuck Riddeck, a hydraulic roller ground to Mr. R's specs and a heavily modified LT4 intake built buy a local race engine builder. Nothing too fancy for the rest of the combination... a lightweight BME piston with Speed Pro rings, Howards connecting rods, etc.

-Mindgame
You just proved why LTx guys are "down on power". How many of them you know use 15* heads and have intakes ported by a race engine builder....

How can this be a comparison?
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Feb 17, 2003 | 11:49 PM
  #45  
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Originally posted by 96z
You just proved why LTx guys are "down on power". How many of them you know use 15* heads and have intakes ported by a race engine builder....

How can this be a comparison?
his v8r is faster than your v8
i just made the comparison
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