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Chris9528 May 14, 2003 12:08 AM

What To Do For A Rear?
 
Alright im looking to replace my rear at about 105k, i will have a much more powerful motor in about a year or two tops. i dont want to redo my rear to hold the hp. what are some good suggestions for a rebuild..gears?...ratech bearing and shim kit??... id like to hear what some of you guys have done.. THANKS

96 WS6 May 14, 2003 12:54 AM

12 bolt... 9"... that's the only way to be sure.

Otherwise, you can beef it up but it would be a waste of money... a cover, good fluid, lower gear ratio (higher number values) are weaker by nature... That's all I know.

IDOXLR8 May 15, 2003 06:18 AM

If your car is going to be an everyday car then I would recommend going with a 12 bolt. If you car will be more of a drag car then I recommend going with a 9-in. :)

rskrause May 15, 2003 06:28 AM

Agree with IDOXLR8 (but wish people would use their names, which are easier to spell).

One thing more, I really doubt those covers do much good. They sure do look purty though, that's why I have one on my 12-bolt.

Rich Krause

thermwood1 May 15, 2003 08:00 AM

Just curious IDOXLR8, but why do you say that a 12 bolt is better suited for everyday driving as opposed to a 9"? I thought the 9" would hold up well in all circumstances? (drag racing, road racing, daily driving) Or am i wrong? Just wanted to get another opinion on this. Thanks.

DarkHorse May 15, 2003 08:38 AM

Maybe he's referring to the weight difference? I think the 9" is lighter than the 12 bolt???

383Z4ME May 15, 2003 09:03 AM

I read recently in one of the mags that the 9" Ford was slightly stronger and easier to work on but the 12 bolt had about 1-2% less drive train power loss when compared to the 9". He may feel that the power loss is a more acceptable trade-off at the track for reliablity reasons.

livin2dxtreme May 19, 2003 06:13 PM

He also may be refferring to the difference in gear noise that comes from the two diffentials that can get quite annoying. The nine inch is a lot louder than the 12 bolt. The whining coming from the 9 inch can get to be quite annoying and there is nothing to be done to quiet this. So unless you don't mind the noise on a constant basis the 12 bolt is a better choice for overall peace.

RichJ May 19, 2003 06:40 PM

What makes you think a 12 bolt is quieter? Everyone I know with a 12 bolt complains about gear noise, including myself. I can't imagine a 9 inch being much worse, if at all. In fact the guy that did my last ring/pinion in my 12 bolt said that 9 inch rears stay quieter after racing them. A 12 bolt may be quiet when everything is brand new, but one good 60 foot and then you get loud gear whine. If I didn't have an M6, I'd stick with a 10 bolt as long as possible.

mjcent922 May 19, 2003 06:46 PM

Well lets see are you an auto or stick?How much track time do you plan on doing?How much money will you have to spend?

Larnach May 19, 2003 07:03 PM

9" you'll need to delete your !ABS system, not that big of a deal when you consider how crappy the factory Bosch and Delphi system is.

9" create much more heat than a 12 bolt so I would recommend a rear end cooler if you go on long trips, other than that, I beleive the 9" is a bit lighter... does anybody know if its the Moser/Strange third member that the torque arm mounts to or the housing?

The way I see it, if its the third member that the torque arm mounts to, you can get a Currie aluminium housing for about $1150 with brackets installed and axles and misc. peices and you have yourself one light rear end.

RichJ May 19, 2003 08:24 PM

You can run ABS on a 9 inch if you aren't running 4 channel ABS. Don't ask me how to do it, but it can be done and I know someone with a 96 Z28 who's done it.

Larnach May 19, 2003 10:21 PM

Yeah but you have to drill into the housing, mount an exciter ring from something like a 80's Ford truck on the differential and wire in a GM sensor... PITA!

Take out the whole ABS system, will work fine on a street car... hell the Viper's don't have em.

Ghettoraid May 19, 2003 10:24 PM

How much power can the factory axle/rear end take

Larnach May 19, 2003 10:26 PM

Less than stock:)


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