I also use the cloyes double roller. Clearanced the timing cover with a grinder and was good to go.

 

Thats all I needed to hear though!!! That is simple! Ok. I have a 95 with a vented optispark. I have the electric water pump and all gaskets and seals. I might need one more freeze plug. Not the small one that comes with the waterpump but the other one to blocks the bigger hole I guess?? ALSO.

If that is the case then somone point me in the right direction of the cheap double roller timing set that I should use. Would I use one that fits the classic sbc 350 engine? thats it? I have carbide bits to make quick work of the timing cover...

Should I go to Summit?

How hard is it to install the timing chain and not mess up the timing at all?

If anyone has the size of that freeze plug.????

thanks for the help! this is very useful information.

 

Found the perfect set. Price is perfect, quality is perfect and it is billet double roller. ... ...

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...9&autoview=sku

 

A search can turn up the correct Cloyes part number. I want to say its 3145 or something.

Summit, well they arent a vendor, but since I was living 30 minutes from the store, it made it hard not to use them.

Size of freeze plug....about the size of a gold sacajewia coin with some right stuff silicone smeared all around it. Dont judge me

-Dustin-

 

i found it bro! look up!

 

That's not the one I used

-Dustin-

 

Somone on here used this one. I am doing the ewp changeover so this will work if I clearance the timing cover. that is a piece of cake... I am about to order the rear wilwood lines and timing set tomorrow. Then I am going to see what I can do about getting an adjustable master cylinder from mcleod because my setup never came with the master, everything else but not the master... I need to go pick up the small clipf or the clutch pedal and I am going to order the switches so I can install them whenever.. I have to get Crackin on my car!! Tons of work to do!!!

 

I've used everything and the ONLY one I have found to be on the money when you degree a cam in that is ground correctly 100% of the time is the ProGear. I had some luck with Cloyes stuff but have found over time that they are hit and miss and not the best at being 100% accurate.

Bret

 

With my run of bad luck I will take my chances with the cloyes. I ordered my billet set today from summit. if anyone needs the part number let me know. I only have to order one felpro gasket now and I will have everything for a complete front refurbish on my engine. All at once I am going to replace the timing chain, remove the factory water pump, install an electric pump and replace my factory balancer with an lt1 balancer from fluidampr. Making my engines timing a little better, maybe a little smoother running valve train at high rpms or somthing along those lines. I like to know that I have replaced weak stock things with nice aftermarket pieces too. peace of mind.

 

You found this out, how? Did you change timing sets using the same cam? I can't believe how lucky I am... My Cloyes double roller is dead on with the cam I'm using for my new buildup. I should play the lottery...

 

Again the difference in ONE buildup and lots more than ONE. Yes I've had motors that have tried 3 sets till the Pro Gear worked perfectly, I've had the std cloyes set DEGREE IN PERFECTLY ONCE. I've had customers and builds in the shop where they are a problem to anyone with a degree wheel. I make sure that the cam is installed on the exact centerline that is should be. In fact having cams that come with readouts on how accurate they are ground and then having the timing chain throw it off is a pain in the ***. This even happened to Lloyd on his motor, the timing chain was off (it was a Cloyes) and the cam checked out fine. He put a Pro Gear on there and boom, it degreed in perfectly.

I don't know what your luck actually is, I still gotta think that ignorance is bliss for you. Some of us work in 1/2° and .0001" over multiple times and some of us work in close enough and it's good for me ONCE.

Bret

 

You see... that wasn't all that hard to type out some info now was it? That's the kind of info that is useful.
Please... you think you're the only one? You are a rockstar but you surely are not Jesus Christ.

 

haha what is going on in my thread?

 

I'd rather be LUCKY than GOOD. Well I'm not lucky, just good. Good takes work too. Nobody thinks I'm the late JC either, just check the sig.

 

The forefathers and ground breakers of modifying the small block Chevy who were able to make a successful living at it while writing "how to" books where their techinques are still followed to this day were good. Anyone else is just riding on the coat tails of poserdom. Thanks for trying though.