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spop 12-20-2008 02:29 AM

What Are Best Camaro LT1 Plugs Wires?
 
Hey there car junkies. I have a 1995 Camaro Z28 with a LT1 motor. It's about to that mile range where I feel it's time to pamper my baby and put new plugs and wires on her. This vehicle is mostly factory, I have added a cold air intake and aftermarket exhaust, but that's it. All other things (including distributor) are factory. I want to know what are the best plugs and wires, as far as life-span, spark strength, power, vitamins for the motor, etc. are. I don't plan on changing anything with the ignition or anything, I just want the best out there to keep a factory vehicle running strong and destroying Mustangs every now and then when it(I) feels like it.

In all of my previous vehicles (non-Camaros, I have changed and left the darkside to find the light) I have used Iridium plugs on them and I plan to do the same on this one as well. As an example, Honda seems to be big into the NGK brand of plugs. So for this vehicle, with AC Delco being the factory replacements, is the AC Delco Iridium spark plug the best replacement, or is another brand of spark plugs proven to be better? Or, possibly, do these vehicles not like Iridium and is something like platinum better? (Again, no change in ignition or the distributor, so quadfires are out of the question).

And then the question comes to wires. Are any brands supposed to be especially good for the vehicle? I understand many who would swear by MSD or the like for vehicles that have been upgraded for racing, but again this is factory. I want the best wire for delivering the most power to the plug on a factory setting, with the best longevity, heat resistance, etc.

Basically, my car is my baby. I like to push it hard now and then, but for the most part I like to keep it as a dependable, daily driver. I want what is best for engine life, performance, gas mileage would be nice (this vehicle can blow a 4-banger out of the sky on the highway, my lead foot causes 14mpg city though). Also of course, I'd like longevity. I like working on this vehicle so I am not thinking of something to put in and forget exists, but something worth its money. Speaking of money, it is on the back burner as far as issues. I have looked around and found that factory AC Delco wires for all eight and a coil are about 60-70 dollars and for a set of eight Iridium plugs I am looking at about 50 bucks. So basically if it ends up somewhere between 90-150 dollars but makes my baby purr at me, I'm a happy camper. What do you guys think? I plan on changing them during the Holidays so the sooner I get advice the better. Thanks for reading, a double thanks for responding; I may not go with the opinion I get, but I treasure them all.

BTW; this may be common knowledge, but I just found it out. Is your Camaro having heater issues? Mine sure did. I could drive and it was kinda warm, pleasant room temperature, but in idle and the like, nothing more than cool air. The vehicle also if it idled long enough would try to get hot even with both fans working (never red lined since I made sure it didn't, never an issue when driving). When I went to change the radiator fluid, I read on an F-Body forum that you can pop the two heater hoses from the water pump, hook a garden hose to one, run water through it until it flushes clean, then the other. I created a garden hose connection (bought at Wally world for 2$) to some scrap heater hose, turned the water on and flushed it, did so on each line a couple of times. My heater will make your eyes water, no more warm issues. So if anyone has a weak heater, overheating issues and your fans work, try that. If only I had been the first owner, that would have never have had to happen. Why can't more people love their cars and feed them nothing but high octane and Lucas Chocolate? Sorry for ranting, thanks.

streetbad 12-20-2008 05:57 AM

Magnacore.

shoebox 12-20-2008 08:41 AM

For you, stock AC-Delco wires would be perfect. No fitment problems like with some larger aftermarket wires.

ZnUSA 12-20-2008 08:59 AM

I just did the same thing with my 94Z everyone told me to go with the AC delco platnium pn 41-906 there about 5-7 dollars each. You can find a deal on ebay sometimies. The wires I was told to use MSD SuperConductor PN 32143 through summits ebay store for 135 shipped, they are a little larger than the stock ones so they won't fit in the holders. I used zip ties and it worked great. Be prepared if you have never done this before it is a royal pain in every part of your body LOL. Let us know if you need any help. Greg

PHINES LT1 12-20-2008 09:07 AM

I have to agree with shoebox. I ran the taylor wires for a while but could not get them routed behind the PS pump pulley right and ended up cutting through two of the wires. replaced those with some 30 dollar cheapies from local parts store. car has never run better and fit perfectly. personally i feel if you are not running any other upgraded ignition components then you are going to notice anything with just plug wires.

Injuneer 12-20-2008 10:10 AM

I'm with Rob/Shoebox too..... a set of stock AC/Delco (Delphi) 7mm wires is more than adequate for a "stockish" engine. The 8.5mm MSD SuperConductors are great wires, but you don't need them, and they are difficult to install in a stock setup.

For plugs, consider the NGK TR55-IX Iridium plugs. I had major problems with the stock AC/Delco platinum plugs losing the little platinum pucks off the center electrode and ground strap... but that was many years ago. Maybe they've improved them.

bombebomb 12-20-2008 10:51 AM

I'm running 8.5mm MSD wires. I am sure some nice AC Delco wires will work fine for you however, I tend to go overkill on things sometimes. ;)

sn8ke eatr 12-20-2008 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by bombebomb (Post 5744720)
I'm running 8.5mm MSD wires. I am sure some nice AC Delco wires will work fine for you however, I tend to go overkill on things sometimes. ;)

same..

for you a good set of oem replacements are usualy the way to go. if you have major modifications like nitrous or a stroker or supercharger, then maybe plan ahead and get msd's or something

Injuneer 12-20-2008 06:50 PM

The OEM wires were made by Packard, another GM parts division. Packard made some of the best ignition wires available. I'm not sure if Packard got spun off with the Delphi deal.

shoebox 12-20-2008 07:17 PM

I've never used anything but the factory wires on my car. People obsess too much about plug wires. There is a point where "bigger" does nothing more for you.

Green96Z 12-20-2008 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by shoebox (Post 5745237)
I've never used anything but the factory wires on my car. People obsess too much about plug wires. There is a point where "bigger" does nothing more for you.

It's not the size that matters, it's the resistance in the wires. The size is usually just more shielding.

YoungCompton 12-21-2008 01:13 AM

I dont know much about the wires bt ima buy this set and hope for the best its reasonably priced

http://motors.shop.ebay.com/_Car-Tru...dZm270Q2el1313

Don 97 SS 12-21-2008 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by YoungCompton (Post 5745588)
I dont know much about the wires bt ima buy this set and hope for the best its reasonably priced

http://motors.shop.ebay.com/_Car-Tru...dZm270Q2el1313

YoungCompton, I am not so sure recommending 10.2 mm wires is a good idea. They simply won't fit well on an LT1. Also, due to the work it takes to 'wire' an LT1, bargain ebay generic wires are not on my short list.

bombebomb 12-21-2008 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by YoungCompton (Post 5745588)
I dont know much about the wires bt ima buy this set and hope for the best its reasonably priced

http://motors.shop.ebay.com/_Car-Tru...dZm270Q2el1313

Good luck routing 10.2mm wires. Not only are you making it hard on yourself, but its a waste. Max I would go is 8.5mm.

Edit: Thought you was op.

shoebox 12-21-2008 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by Green96Z (Post 5745245)
It's not the size that matters, it's the resistance in the wires. The size is usually just more shielding.

I was not strictly using bigger as meaning size. That's why I had in quotes. ;) People think bigger is better and you are correct, it is the resistance that is important. However stock wires have lots more resistance as compared to some advertised aftermarket wires and they still work great. There is a point where lower resistance no longer matters. The spark provided cannot make use of it.

JP95ZM6 12-21-2008 09:43 AM

If you do use bigger wires, you will likely need to develop a new routing. Those metal channels are snug even with factory wires. Considering the factory routing is a real pain to start with, don't make it worse. With headers, routing over the valve covers is nice, but with factory manifolds I don't think that is even an option.

Injuneer 12-21-2008 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by shoebox (Post 5745237)
I've never used anything but the factory wires on my car. People obsess too much about plug wires. There is a point where "bigger" does nothing more for you.


Originally Posted by YoungCompton (Post 5745588)
I dont know much about the wires bt ima buy this set and hope for the best its reasonably priced

http://motors.shop.ebay.com/_Car-Tru...dZm270Q2el1313

Didn't take long to prove your point, did it Rob? :D

But since YoungCompton doesn't have a "signature" we have no idea what he's going to put them on. Maybe its a 1,500HP turbo setup with an extreme high voltage ignition system. That's about the only place those wires would make any sense.

PS - do a google search on Vision Motorsports, the supposed manufacturer of that 10.2mm wire. Only thing that seems to turn up is a source that sells lighting.

YoungCompton 12-21-2008 11:56 AM

Welcome to the YoungCompton Roast lol! as it says in the post "((((I don't know much about the wires)))) but ima buy this set and hope for the best its reasonably priced" i seen what looked like a pretty good deal and i shared the idea. Yes i figured bigger is better on the wires so thanks everyone i learned something new

IPrice 12-21-2008 10:19 PM

With the extreme list of mods he has I would LOATH to hear how much fun he has trying to run routing on anything larger than OEM.

:D

Hey brother, get some AC Delcos or, hell, Retail Auto Parts brand. (AZ/Shucks/PB's...etc..) They are all 7mms and will be just fine.

Good luck,
Ivan

BTW-Run some over the counter NGK TR5s..can't go wrong there.

Maverick_997 12-21-2008 10:38 PM

just replaced mine after header install with some 8.5 msd wires and it wasnt to bad to route those. a few cut up knuckles, a zip tie, and a couple hours later it was done :D
btw they only have 30-50 ohms of resistance i think compared to the few thousand ohm stockers

Jeremy

lt1bowtiefreak 12-21-2008 10:58 PM

i know msd has there street fire 8mm (500ohms) wires not sure how good they are, then jegs has there brand of 8.5mm and both are around 40-50, has any body else used these? im curious cuz ive been looking at those since i dont have the money to buy the 8.5mm superconductor wires

texas94z 12-22-2008 11:07 PM

not taylors IMO.

ACE1252 12-22-2008 11:42 PM


Originally Posted by Injuneer (Post 5744684)
I had major problems with the stock AC/Delco platinum plugs losing the little platinum pucks off the center electrode and ground strap... but that was many years ago. Maybe they've improved them.

No....they still lose them....all my old plugs were missing them. I guess the get blown out the exhaust.....I hope.:freakout:

IPrice 12-23-2008 12:18 AM

I was at AZ last night and asked what kind of wires they sold just to see what other options our friend might have.

You can Special Order MSD 7mm wires for the exact same price as their "oem" Duralast branded ones....$39.99.

They only come in black but I'm sure that the quality isn't bad.

Just thought I'd pass it along,
Ivan

shoebox 12-23-2008 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by Maverick_997 (Post 5746508)
just replaced mine after header install with some 8.5 msd wires and it wasnt to bad to route those. a few cut up knuckles, a zip tie, and a couple hours later it was done :D
btw they only have 30-50 ohms of resistance i think compared to the few thousand ohm stockers

Jeremy

...though the stockers seem to work just as well...

fireman 12-25-2008 09:50 AM

Taylor wires--Had 2 sets on my previous Mustangs and they just turn to sh*t in about a year. Tried a set on my Firebird years back with an OTVC setup as well, same thing. Won't EVER buy again.

MSD Superconductors--Bought a set back when car was basic bolt ons. If they are anywhere in the vicinity of the header tubes, they will get hard as a rock and crack open. Not impressed for the $90 paid for them. Won't buy again.

Stock wires-- I don't know if GM uses the same maker for all their wires. My '00 GTP had 26k on it and was exactly one year old when I had a major issue with misfiring over 3500rpm. Tried averything to fix it. In a last ditch effort, I replaced the still new looking stock wires with some Accel Super Stock 7mm wires. Problem solved.

I'e been thorugh 4 sets of wires on my Firebiord in the last 8 years and the best ones have been my current Accel 8.8mm, 300+, cut to fit wires. They have been on the car since '03 and are perfect. They are close as hell to the header tubes as well. They still look and perform like new. I think I paid around $60 for them too.

BTW- [edit] stock Fbody wire routing. I have never even considered trying to route a new set of wires how the factory ones were.

Robert Dikes 08-26-2019 06:41 AM

Re: What Are Best Camaro LT1 Plugs Wires?
 
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