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Well, I think I need new injectors (XE 224/230 112 LSA)

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Old May 1, 2003 | 02:55 PM
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Well, I think I need new injectors (XE 224/230 112 LSA)

http://kak.com/camaro/mustang.jpg
http://kak.com/camaro/injectors.jpg

While I was racing a mustang (first pic) my injector rate was at 91% and at other times flooring it, it has gone to about 96%. I also have a tune that has the injector rates set at 25.38 and 24.91 is normal. It looks like I need new injectors, whata do you think? Also, is 320 Airflow in grams per second decent for 5925 rpm? I think if I go above 6200 that Ill starve the motor of fuel
Old May 1, 2003 | 03:30 PM
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I dont see an AFPR in your mods, as I understand it a little increase in pressure can help you avoid buying bigger injectors. BTW, how do you like that datamaster? I really cant read it from your link once it loads.
Old May 1, 2003 | 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by quicksilver97ta
I dont see an AFPR in your mods, as I understand it a little increase in pressure can help you avoid buying bigger injectors. BTW, how do you like that datamaster? I really cant read it from your link once it loads.
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Old May 1, 2003 | 05:32 PM
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Wouldnt an AFPR just be a bandaid? If I can get some more views on this I will try it! My fuel pressure is 36 PSI at idle...

How much HP am I losing right now? (Maxing out injectors and 3-5 degrees of knock retard)
Old May 1, 2003 | 06:18 PM
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Is that fuel pressure reading with the vacuum line disconnected? I am still running the factory injectors with the 306, but my fuel pressure is set at 60 psi so they are like 30#. I haven't had a chance to take any Datamaster readings after the dyno tune to see what my duty cycle is.

I would say that you could get an AFPR to get by for a while if you don't want to spend the money for new injectors.
Old May 1, 2003 | 07:05 PM
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No, why would I unplug my fuel pressure vacuum line?

Your sure that the PCM will totally compensate for the 60 psi in open and closed loop and the WOT cell?
Old May 1, 2003 | 07:39 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Rodrigues
[B]No, why would I unplug my fuel pressure vacuum line?

Fuel pressure readings are generally discussed with the vacuum line disconnected. It is like a standard. Different cams will have different vacuum at idle possibly affecting the reading.
Old May 1, 2003 | 08:06 PM
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Ahh.. I still need to do that I guess. Now my main question is: 1.) Do I actually have a fuel problem, if so is it bad? 2.) Should I get bigger injectors? 3.) Should I skip injectors and get a AFPR?
Old May 1, 2003 | 08:29 PM
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Ahh.. I still need to do that I guess. Now my main question is: 1.) Do I actually have a fuel problem, if so is it bad? 2.) Should I get bigger injectors? 3.) Should I skip injectors and get a AFPR?
seeing how an AFPR is like $125 and injectors can climb over 300...
Old May 1, 2003 | 09:20 PM
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You can get FMS 30#'s used for like $175... is 92% duty cycle really even that bad?

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seeing how an AFPR is like $125 and injectors can climb over 300...
Old May 1, 2003 | 09:51 PM
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The PCM doesn't know that the fuel pressure is at 60 psi because I have changed the injector constant so the PCM thinks the injectors are approximately 30#.

What were your O2 readings when the duty cycle? Have you had the car on a dyno with wideband O2?

I have been running on the factory injectors at 60 psi for about 2 years, but plan on switching them out for 42# this year because of nitrous. I don't want the injectors to lock up.
Old May 1, 2003 | 10:08 PM
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my o2 sensors were steady around 940 mV, from my understanding thats very rich. My injector rate right now is 25.38 lb/hour in the pcm. So to balance out the higher fuel pressure you just increased the injector rate? That sounds like a better deal . What exactly did you set your injector rate with 60 psi of fuel pressure?
Old May 1, 2003 | 10:16 PM
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I'd vote for new injectors also, 30# SVO stuff is cheap and readily obtainable. If you dont program in the new injector flow rate, with a regulator or new injector setup, your BLMs will shift and this affects WOT calculations as well.

93 cars can use the regulator differently than we can.
Old May 1, 2003 | 10:44 PM
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From what I have shown you, do you think I NEED the injectors with a 92% duty cycle at 5900 rpm? I plan to go to 6200... I dont think I actually hit 100% yet, but what would happen? What happens past 80% that makes the injectors "unstable"? I have a feeling its something about the fuel atomizing proporly, but I just want to make sure.

Would I feel more power than I am now with 30# injectors?
Old May 1, 2003 | 10:52 PM
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Heres the log I ran

http://kak.com/camaro/car.uni

I started racing the mustang at #rec 2304-2344
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