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power loss with 114 LSA over 112

Old Oct 3, 2003 | 01:06 AM
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power loss with 114 LSA over 112

Is there really that much of a difference in power between the two ?

I am talking about the 224/230 114 on afr comp heads full exhaust and all.

This hot cam has to go. Would the gains be worth the swap on 114 LSA?
Old Oct 3, 2003 | 03:41 AM
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A 114??? Hope your running a BIG BLOWER or TURBO with that bish

114 would be a GHEY LSA for an NA car
Old Oct 3, 2003 | 03:49 AM
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It wouldn't be anything horrible. Look up the user name 'RealQuick' and shoot him a PM. He's got a 230/236 on a 114 and is pretty happy with it - he put down some pretty nice #'s.
Old Oct 3, 2003 | 03:56 AM
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well I am only thinking about the 114 because of California emissions getting harder and all.

I have also heard "driveabilty" gets better with higher LSA. What do you think?
Old Oct 3, 2003 | 04:26 AM
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To be honest with you, 112 isn't very radical, my 224/230 is on a 112. It's got a slight lope, otherwise it idles fine @ 850. Driveability is a non-issue. A 114 would have less lope and a bit of a shift in the powerband. Again though - neither of these is going to be a tremendous difference. If it were me in Cali, I wouldn't have any heart burn about going with a 114 just to be on the safe side with emissions. It's going to be a very nice bump in power and you've got to deal with what you've got to deal with out there regardless.

Check with some of the shops in the vendor index and get some ideas/thoughts from them. Almost all of them will be happy to help you out - not to mention this is what they do by trade. Not too many (including myself) on this board do this stuff for a living.
Old Oct 3, 2003 | 05:48 AM
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My 224/230 has hardly any lope at all, but that's not your problem. A closer LSA has greater overlap of the valves, which is a big killer of emissions. The wider LSA has less overlap, meaning more environmentally friendly. It also decreases the lope, and moves the powerband, down I believe.

I haven't heard of anyone passing emissions with the 224/230 on a 112*. I have heard of lots doing it with the 114* lsa though. As for driveability, it's awesome!!
Old Oct 3, 2003 | 02:24 PM
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for emissions, you dont have a choice, you will pass with the 224/230 114. texas emissions are the same now.

i dont know how much power over hot cam, but im sure there would be some. maybe get a custom grind, more lift?

whats it gonna hurt to try
Old Oct 3, 2003 | 02:31 PM
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There's plenty of power to be had over the hotcam. They're both ground on a 108ICL, and a 112 LSA for comparison. You've got 6* more intake and 2* more exhaust duration, and .11 intake and .19 exhaust more lift than the hotcam. It's gonna make more power.

What's the most power anyone's seen with ported heads/hotcam vs. Ported heads/224/230?? AFIK I've got the most I've seen from the 224/230 and heads combo. Anyone taken a hotcam this high?
Old Oct 3, 2003 | 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by InjectedSS
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114 would be a GHEY LSA for an NA car
I guess my car is officially "ghey".
Old Oct 3, 2003 | 02:47 PM
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NOW YOU DONE IT !
Old Oct 3, 2003 | 02:59 PM
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A 114??? Hope your running a BIG BLOWER or TURBO with that bish

114 would be a GHEY LSA for an NA car
Damn...My "GHEY" car has went 12.38 with a stock bottom end and stock suspension...On the motor. Looking to go in the 11's tonight waith that "GHEY" cam, now that I've worked all the bugs out. The CC305 is ground on a 114. My 4.10 car traps almost 112 MPH with 26" tall tires.

Frank
Old Oct 3, 2003 | 03:11 PM
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NOW YOU DONE IT !
LMAO!!!!
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