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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 05:30 PM
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Part # for accelerator cable??

I need to know the part number for an accelerator cable for a 1997 Z28 withOUT traction control...I am going to eliminate this system!!!

Anyways, any help is appreciated!!

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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 06:44 PM
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For my '95 the accelerator cable without traction control is part number 122550676. Don't know if that's the same for your '97.

You might also want to get the cruise control cable without traction control if you want to keep cruise control. Again for my '95 that's part number 12550719, but double check for your '97.
Old Apr 6, 2004 | 06:51 PM
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Those numbers should be the same. My throttle cable says 122550676 right on the tag and im right in the middle with my 96 . Just remember theres a lot more to removing the ASR than just the throttle cables. I'm removing mine too but keeping ABS. Right now it looks like all you need to do is change the brake line setup to the back along with the sensor (one on the pumpkin for 3 series carrier) and the ABS module in the driver's kick panel. Along with an adjustment in the PCM, you SHOULD retain ABS and eliminate the traction control...unless I missed something that is.
Old Apr 6, 2004 | 06:58 PM
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1994-1996 accelerator cable-no traction control 12550676

1997 accelerator cable-no traction control 12554852

Don't know why the 97 has a different number. Maybe something to do with the dash change?


1997 cruise cable -no TCS is GM PART # 12558781

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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 10:09 PM
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Yeah I know...I am looking into what all needs to be done to eliminate the system..I figure the throttle cable is a good place to start though.

Thanks for the part numbers!!!
Old Apr 6, 2004 | 11:53 PM
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Originally posted by CamaroBoy96Z28
Just remember theres a lot more to removing the ASR than just the throttle cables. I'm removing mine too but keeping ABS. Right now it looks like all you need to do is change the brake line setup to the back along with the sensor (one on the pumpkin for 3 series carrier) and the ABS module in the driver's kick panel. Along with an adjustment in the PCM, you SHOULD retain ABS and eliminate the traction control...unless I missed something that is.
You could leave the rear brake lines alone, unless you want to remove the traction control unit to remove about 5 pounds. Yes you would have to change the ABS module under the kick panel, but the big problem would be the sensor and reluctor ring for ABS. With Traction Control you have a reluctor ring and a sensor on each axle. ABS only has one sensor on the pumpkin but you would have to add the reluctor ring to the ring gear. That plus the cost of the ABS electronics module was the main reason I just did away with ABS and Traction Control.
Old Apr 7, 2004 | 07:59 PM
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I want to keep the ABS unit though...the only thing that I want to eliminate would be the traction control. I am assuming that I would have to purchase a new EBCM from a Camaro without traction control and replace the cables and have the PCM reprogrammed without the traction control codes is what it is looking like to me right now.

Any other opinions??

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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 11:48 PM
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... AND you will need to have the ABS reluctor ring pressed on to the ring gear in the differential because it's very different (and it's not there in abs/tcs cars) from the traction control reluctor rings you now have on the axles.
Old Apr 8, 2004 | 04:31 PM
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I'm keeping my ABS...the only thing that I am getting rid of would the the TCS. Isn't that ring also used for ABS operation???
Old Apr 8, 2004 | 07:33 PM
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There are two versions of ABS.

(1) ABS only. This has the reluctor ring on the ring gear and has the sensor on the pumpkin. It does not have any reluctors or sensors on the rear axles. It is a 3 channel system (2 front sensors and 1 rear sensor).

(2) ABS with TCS. This does not have the reluctor ring on the ring gear and does not have the sensor on the pumpkin. It does have a reluctor and sensor on each rear axle. It is a 4 channel system (2 front sensors and 2 rear sensors).

That's the difference between the two. You have to change the EBCM to change from 4 to 3 channel, change the wiring to deal with the sensor changes, and change the reluctor because the 3 channel system is expecting signals from one sensor and probably at a different rate due to the size difference of reluctor rings. So unless someone has figured out how to program the EBCM to turn off TCS and leave ABS only in a 4 channel system you would have to install that reluctor in the differential to make the conversion.
Old Apr 8, 2004 | 11:28 PM
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Ah ha...gotcha. That is probably going to suck a little bit, but I am pretty sick and tired of this TCS system, so I am definitely going to get rid of it.
Old Apr 9, 2004 | 12:03 AM
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Looking at the wiring schematic and layout for the TCS and Non-TCS system everything minus the pumpkin sensor should plug right up. I have an EBCM from a non TCS car and it looks like you just plug in two of the three connectors into the EBCM leacing out the TCS connector as they are the same for both setups. You can pick up an EBCM in the for sale section for about $50. The harness for the TCS/Non-TCS ABS sensors in the rear plug to the same pigtail as well. I'm just getting a 12-bolt with the reluctor ring and sensor on the pumpkin. If you do go the route of changing everything on the stock rear, post up your results. It would be interesting to see how it came out.
Old Apr 9, 2004 | 04:43 PM
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I will...there is also a TCS modulator attached to the hydraulics of the brake modulator that can be deleted and will be eventually. Brake fluid flows through this to get to the rear wheel calipers.

I will most definitely let everyone know how this comes out when everything is complete...I got both cables ordered today, so I am officially underway. The EBCM will probalby be a tougher one to locate and I am going to try and figure out a way to do this without pressing on a reluctor wheel on the carrier, but I haven't come up with one yet, but we shall see.

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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 07:22 PM
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Re: Part # for accelerator cable??

What is the part number for a 93 Transam car? Mine just broke.
Old Aug 10, 2006 | 08:17 PM
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Re: Part # for accelerator cable??

Anyone? Will the 1994-1996 accelerator cable cable work for my 93?



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