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My new setup...
My motor will be done this week. I can't wait :cool:
I intend to use this as a daily driver and will never race it and it must pass emmissions (hence the shorties). For a street car with stock torque converter and bullet proofed A4 what do you think? Edelbrock LT1 Performer Heads (with ARP head bolts) Edelbrock LT1 Performer Air Gap Intake (still on backorder) Edelbrock 52mm Throttle body Edelbrock Ceramic Shorty Headers (must pass NJ emissions) with Stage 8 header bolts Crane Cam 272/286, Lift .479/.518 Trick Flow Chromemoly Push Rods (+ .100) Comp Cams 1.6 Roller Rockers & lifters Bored .030 over with Sealed Power pistons Balanced & Blueprinted Reconditioned stock crank Bilstein shocks all around MSD OptiSPark Taylor wires I have completely rebuilt the front end with all new bushings (Moog rubber for ride comfort) and Energy Suspension poly motor mounts and trans mount. New ball joints, painted entire front suspension and engine compartment. According to Edelbrock, I will not need a tune but I am sure it could help and will eventually get one. What kind of HP do you think I will see? I am so stoked! I plan to bring it to the Carlisle GM Nationals show this summer. |
if you will never race it then why all the upgrades?
sounds like a nice DD setup though |
Originally Posted by 396D1SS
(Post 4503102)
if you will never race it then why all the upgrades?
sounds like a nice DD setup though |
I assume those are advertised durations? I would ditch the stage 8s and get either ARPs or ones with a different locking mech. Also, ditch the bosch plugs for some NGKs. BTW that looks like a 210/224 crane 227 cam. Ie. your numbers seems to be advertised durs using 1.5 ratio.
As far as your push rods, why longer? Ibelieve you should measure for correct geometry before carte blanc splapping on longr PRs. I'm just guessing here----set me straight.JMHO:cool: |
BTW: Don't for get to get some good springs. The crane spring recommended for that cam is good and I believe that that particular spring has been improved, so check on the new one. Of coursethe bee hives are very good, as I understand.
Also, understand that baby cam is a good rv cam well-suited for the heavier rag top. JMHO:cool: |
Save some money and run the stock TB and the stock Intake. No need for that stuff with what you are doing.
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Originally Posted by BUBBA
(Post 4503170)
I assume those are advertised durations? I would ditch the stage 8s and get either ARPs or ones with a different locking mech. Also, ditch the bosch plugs for some NGKs. BTW that looks like a 210/224 crane 227 cam. Ie. your numbers seems to be advertised durs using 1.5 ratio.
As far as your push rods, why longer? Ibelieve you should measure for correct geometry before carte blanc splapping on longr PRs. I'm just guessing here----set me straight.JMHO:cool: The heads are going to be installed on the block Monday and the rod length will be checked. Edelbrock thinks I may need need the longer length so I ordered them. If they turn out to not be necessary and I'll go back to the stock length. |
Originally Posted by BUBBA
(Post 4503236)
BTW: Don't for get to get some good springs. The crane spring recommended for that cam is good and I believe that that particular spring has been improved, so check on the new one. Of coursethe bee hives are very good, as I understand.
Also, understand that baby cam is a good rv cam well-suited for the heavier rag top. JMHO:cool: |
Originally Posted by buzz12586
(Post 4503367)
Save some money and run the stock TB and the stock Intake. No need for that stuff with what you are doing.
JEff |
The Power Max is the same cam, ie., 227.
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Bubba,
What don't you like about the Stage 8 locking mechanism? Just trying to understand the pros and cons....:) Jeff |
Actually, I am not in a position to say because I have had no experience with them. But if you think about it, having to install little locks on the bolts lends itself to the probablility that you will be dropping the damn things into the LT1 abyss never to be seen again. I use the ARP stainless 1" bolts with 12 pt heads to give me a tad more working room between as bolt and the primary.
One should check the tq on the headers on occasion anyway, especially after the first heat cycle or so. There are some locking-type bolts out there---I'm certain others will give you some good recommendations on them. Messing with headers bolts, spark plug replacement, etc.---any work that requires getting your hands into that motor can be a pain and one needs to consider this when considering fasteners, etc. BTW, I have heard some bitches about the stage 8 lockers from others on the board.JMHO:cool: |
Bubba,
Thanks for your insight. Since I am assembling the motor on the K member outside the engine compartment, it is easy to forget how much a pain it will be to service later. Jeff |
BTW: Most Lt1 owners consider NGK plugs to be standard choice. Going with copper plugs is cheaper and they conduct the best, however their they supposedly do not last as long as plats or irradiums. On the other hand if you don't put that many miles on them and don't mind changing them more often, then copper is fine.
When I recommend the NGKs, I am not saying that they are the very best. But one needs to at least take into consideration the experiences others have had with using different plugs---aftermarket vendors don't necessarily have as much experience as all of the actual owners and operators of these cars acting as a concerned group.....and I haven't heard many raving reviews for the Bosch 4s. JMHO |
I agree with Bubba on the Stage 8s, they can be a pain to install when it comes to the locking clip. It took both me and my friend to get them installed on his car. One set of hands on top and the other on bottom. They do the job though.
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