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pardonme2711 11-19-2003 01:45 PM

how fast are these cars stock?
 
i am currently the owner of a 94 mustang gt, which has juts been totalled out. before that i owned a 1989 camaro RS. And now i need a new car and i think i am looking at getting a 93-97 camaro. but i want to know what kind of times i can expect stock? for an auto? for a 6 speed? and how much horse power do camaros have stock? thanks for your help

zx1216 11-19-2003 01:52 PM

93-95-275 hp
96-97-285 hp
With a good driver a m6 camaro will run low 14's at around 100 mph. People have ran into the 13's though bone stock.

chez 11-19-2003 01:56 PM

m6 is what? the engine that comes with 93-95 camaros?

I just got my honda wrecked by some drunk idiot so as soon as I get the claim from his insurance im buying myself either a z28 or a gt.

One of the main things I've been trying to look into is the gas milage for each car... I'm thinking the mustang gets better gas being a 4.6 right? The z28 is probably faster tho, no?

Joe K. 96 Zeee!! 11-19-2003 02:05 PM

M6= manual trasmission with 6 speeds
A4= auto tranny - 4speed

93-97 Camaro's came with the 5.7L LT1 engine stock. 96-97 had 10 extra ponies due to a dual vice single catalytic convertor setup.

94-98 Mustangs had 215-225 HP stock

As far as gas milage goes, my A4 LT1 with 2.73 gears got 28-29 MPG on highway trips at 65MPH. Around town it was 21-22MPG. Stock to stock Mustangs are probably about the same....The 6 speed has a very high 6th gear and the engine will only turn about 1800rpm at 75 MPH.

In short, for those years, the Mustang didn't hold a candle to the Camaro as far as performance goes. I remember test driving a 97 GT and it feeling closer to my V6 Camaro actually.

BitCypher 11-19-2003 02:05 PM


Originally posted by chez
m6 is what? the engine that comes with 93-95 camaros?

I just got my honda wrecked by some drunk idiot so as soon as I get the claim from his insurance im buying myself either a z28 or a gt.

One of the main things I've been trying to look into is the gas milage for each car... I'm thinking the mustang gets better gas being a 4.6 right? The z28 is probably faster tho, no?

M6 = 6-speed manual transmission
A4 = automatic 4-speed

The 93-97 Z28/Trans Am came with the 5.7 V8 LT1 engine (275hp - 285hp)
The 98-2003 Z28/Trans Am came with the 5.7 V8 LS1 engine (305hp - 325hp)

Both the LT1 and the LS1 engine, stock, get awesome gas mileage if you have a light foot (some get 29+mpg on the highway in 6th gear).

chez 11-19-2003 03:13 PM

The woman from allstate said I should be getting my loot in about a week. The guy cleanly stated it was his fault so I don't see there being any major delays.

I've only been able to find a couple of manual z28's in my area and they're all 95.. that's not a bad year with some major defects is it? I don't know some cars make wierd jumps from year to year sometimes.

I've been looking into the 98's but the manual ones are beyond 8500. I can't afford to spend more than that with gas and the insurance.

BigBlue95Z 11-19-2003 03:22 PM

1994 and 1995 are the best LT1 years, as far as moding goes. It is MAF controled and has the ODB1 computer. They also have the hardened pushrods in 1995. PLUS, i like the interior better than the rest. And no, i'm not bias at all!!!!:D ;)
Hope this helps!!!

Patman 11-19-2003 03:23 PM

Mine ran a 13.74 at 100.0 mph in bone stock trim, with a 2.00 60ft time.

BitCypher 11-19-2003 03:29 PM

Hey chez,

You won't be disappointed with the LT1 engine ('93-'97) - parts are easily available, upgrades are fairly cheap compared to the LS1 counterparts, and they can be made to go fast. 330+rwhp is fairly easy to achieve with just a cam, CAI, and full exhaust with long tube headers. And the '94-'95 model is one of the best for those who like modding because it uses the ODBD1 PCM (engine management computer), which is much cheaper and easier to program than it's OBD2 successor on the '96-'02 models. BTW, the 93 model PCM is "chip-based" and employs "speed-density" measurement while the '94-'02 models use a "Mass-Air-Flow" sensor (MAF) and are programmed by connecting the PCM directly to a programmer/laptop (ex. "lt1_edit").

More than you prolly wanted to know... :)

EDIT: As a note, you can switch a car that came with OBD2 to OBD1 to help lower PCM reprogramming costs required by certain engine modifications. So, don't rule out a '96 or '97 entirely. :cool:

chez 11-19-2003 03:37 PM

I suppose that settles that issue.. now it's a matter of manual or automatic. I live in Miami right now.. and that means not a single hill ever. I've been planning a move to go study at Tallahassee and that place is hills all over the place. It seems doable to me, but people that live there tell me it's hard. Are they just being weak sauce?

In buying a 95 i shouldn't be concerned about anything specific should I? No leaky roof or something?

*edit*

Sorry I know I got way off topic, but is there any major difference between 94 and 95? Is 100k miles is kindda high on most cars but I heard it's not really bad on these cars. Both of the manual cars I've found have a little under 100k.

zx1216 11-19-2003 05:45 PM

Lt1 motors will last forever if treated right. Mine has 176 k on it and the only major thing that was replaced on it was the fuel pump, which dosen't have much to do with the motor. There are people on the board with 200k + miles and still goin strong. So as far as i'm concerned 100k miles is nothing. mod away

IrocManiac 11-19-2003 07:11 PM


Originally posted by zx1216
Lt1 motors will last forever if treated right. Mine has 176 k on it and the only major thing that was replaced on it was the fuel pump, which dosen't have much to do with the motor. There are people on the board with 200k + miles and still goin strong. So as far as i'm concerned 100k miles is nothing. mod away
He's right these things run forever if properly maintained. As for mileage on the highway 6 speed camaro vs 5 speed mustang the camaro will get 3 or 4 mpg better assuming both are stock. The 1995's had no major defects in fact they got a few things some of the others didn't like hardened pushrods and its the first year for the vented opti (opti spark being the ignition on these cars) speaking of the opti do not do ignition mods to the car. That is the fastest way to an opti failure in my opinion. The opti is a good ignition and performs well is moderately modified vehicles without issue. As to which one outta the stang and the F body...I'd go F body...if you do decide on a stang stay away from the 4.6 GT's they're dogs (96-98s) parts are expensive and they're not really worth the effort unless you wanna do HCI swap.

Transamdriver 11-19-2003 07:18 PM

My 1997 A4 ran a 14.00 @ 99.96 still with the paper filter.:bow:

Dave88LX 11-19-2003 08:18 PM

My '97 Formula went 13.9 @ 100 MPH, 6-speed, stock on Pep Boys tires.

DivisnZ28 03-07-2004 04:01 PM

if you do get a z28 and plan on modding it, get an auto. you can get the power to the ground a lot better with a high horsepower z28.


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