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Old Feb 11, 2004 | 02:29 AM
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Angry A few concerns with Cam install.. Debree in oil, Semi-broken oilpan gasket..

Well I was installing my cam today (didnt get the heads back yet) and everything seemed to be going ok, i went to put the timing cover back on and i ripped the corner of the oil pan gasket up under the oilpan not on the timing seal in the top right corner.. I sprayed it with brake cleaner and dried it off.. The I put a little ok i lied ALOT of black RTV on it and im just wondering if it will be ok? Also im kinda paranoid about me putting so much ]rtv on that some may have gotten in the oil pan, will that hurt anything?? I installed the lifters and i felt the oil in the lifter valley and there was some debree in there.. Like not metal, just like old sealer from bolts, gasket material,etc... I poured a **** load of oil in the lifter valley and tried to clean the smaller stuff out and i removed the bigger stuff by hand.. Will that stuff hurt anything??? I bought like 8 quarts of regular motor oil to pour all over the lifter valley when everything was together and then I was going to let it drain out of the drain plug and the close it and fill it with the oil its supposed to have.. Is that ok?

Problem: STUPID POS! SON OF A !!! That darn water pump seal.. I have broken 2, how the heck do you get it on? the timing cover is on already and no water pump seal..
Old Feb 11, 2004 | 05:48 AM
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the water pump seal "that seals to the block" is really easy to put on. Just slap a little RTV (LITTLE) on the water pump. Then a LITTLE on the block and slowly maneuver into place. There should be guides on your water pump that line it up and help you hold it in place. As far as the Black RTV that you used on the oil pan gasket... Well, you will probably be replacing that gasket soon

And... since you already did the oil thing, just do as you were going to originally do. But you probably shouldn't have let the debri wash down the lifter openings... But what can you do.
Old Feb 11, 2004 | 09:49 AM
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Old Feb 11, 2004 | 09:55 AM
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You don't need any RTV on the waterpump gaskets. You will need some thread sealer on one of the bolts (the bottom most driver's side bolt).

As for your debris question, I am in the same situation. Just finished a cam install on Sat. To do it right you need to do an oil pan gasket after the timing cover gasket, and have a bit of RTV in the lip of the oil pan gakset that seals onto the timing cover.

Lifting the motor isn't challenging. Do it right the first time.

As for your debris question, as a chunk of RTV, may get sucked into the oil pump and clog it. I've heard of this and, most times it just works its way through and is out. If the RTV is small enough to get through the screen, it will be destroyed without hurting anything.

If you have any other debris, like what came off my intake, this could be trouble. Small crud etc... can be an issue. I vacuumed (shop vac with home made attachment) the lifter valley and head out real well and am confident in it.

Get out what you can with your finger, and do an oil change within 30 minutes. (or sooner if you used "assembly" lube).
Old Feb 11, 2004 | 09:58 AM
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How do you raise the motor?? I would change it but i dont know how to raise it up. And i dont feel like taking those darn engine mount bolts out.. do i have to take them out?
Old Feb 11, 2004 | 10:05 AM
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How do you raise the motor?? I would change it but i dont know how to raise it up. And i dont feel like taking those darn engine mount bolts out.. do i have to take them out?
There are about three significant posts on this topic here. Yes, you need to get the motor mount bolts off.

Support the back of the tranny with a piece of wood, and raise it to take pressure off the motor mounts. Then remove the bolts.

Its that easy. Some people want to raise by the balancer, some by the oil pan etc.... Do a search and see what you think.
Old Feb 11, 2004 | 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by DR.ZED
As for your debris question, as a chunk of RTV, may get sucked into the oil pump and clog it. I've heard of this and, most times it just works its way through and is out. If the RTV is small enough to get through the screen, it will be destroyed without hurting anything.

If you have any other debris, like what came off my intake, this could be trouble. Small crud etc... can be an issue. I vacuumed (shop vac with home made attachment) the lifter valley and head out real well and am confident in it.

Get out what you can with your finger, and do an oil change within 30 minutes. (or sooner if you used "assembly" lube).
RTV enetring the oil pump can be catastrofic !!!! any reduction of flow because of restriction can be harmful.
Old Feb 11, 2004 | 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by DR.ZED
You don't need any RTV on the waterpump gaskets.
It doesn't hurt if applied in moderation...
Old Feb 11, 2004 | 03:11 PM
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Hahaha... who moderates RTV??

Man, you must have some self control.

Opening that little package of goop, is like Christmas for some people...
Old Feb 11, 2004 | 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by DR.ZED
Hahaha... who moderates RTV??

Man, you must have some self control.

Opening that little package of goop, is like Christmas for some people...
Yea, you're right, I always used to gum that stuff up on everything. But its just not necessary to do. When you do, you worry yourself like the guy above, with things like did that get inside my engine and will it clog something up later.... Fact is, whatever you see come squirt out on the outside, more than likely squirted in....
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