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tnmotown 04-28-2007 06:31 PM

do i take timing cover off w/ new EWP??
 
ok i did a search and almost checked it all out but still kinda stuck. Im gonna order the Meziere EWP monday and was wondering, when i install it do i have to take the timing cover off to plug up the hole where the gear is at? I heard some people left the cover on and just took the gear off.

Also does the Meziere fit right in the water pump housing? i know the CSR you had to notch 4 areas for it to fit in.

KillWhitey 04-28-2007 08:30 PM

IIRC you have to pull the cover to take the gear out and plug the hole

tnmotown 04-28-2007 10:18 PM

man i really didnt want to do that, i just got the new engine done at the machine shop and they just sealed up the timing cover.

so if i have to take it off and plug it up, what do i plug up the timing cover with?

tagz 04-28-2007 11:04 PM

Why MUST he take the timing cover off? Can't he just take the adapter off the shaft that stick out of the timing cover? The gear is going to be out of the water pump completely.

IMO the right way to do it is to take the hole gear off from within the timing cover. But you can get away with leaving the gear in. Some one correct me if i'm wrong?

mrseven 04-28-2007 11:17 PM

You can leave the gear in, but theres always the chance of oil leakage or debris getting in there. It may be faster, but the longer more painful way might save you more headache later on. :D

tnmotown 04-29-2007 01:46 AM

yeah i just read an article where you could just let the gear on the timing cover "free spin". How would it still be able to leak or debris get in, even when everything is brand new?

If i end up having to plug the hole, what do i use to do it?

Heatmaker 04-29-2007 02:32 AM

I used a freeze plug.

seawolf06 04-29-2007 03:29 AM

You can leave it until it starts leaking.

AmericanMuscle33 04-29-2007 05:58 AM

You can leave the water pump "gear-drive" in the block. You can leave the timing cover as is.

Like previously stated it will "free-spin".

I've ran around like this for a year and half so far in my daily driver. No leaks, no debris problems. However, with the new rebuild I will remove the gear-drive and will be plugging the hole; there's no point not too, if you know you'll never ditch the EWP.

Joe B 04-29-2007 06:09 AM

http://ken.lowrance.com/projects/csi...mp/default.htm ....Here's a pretty good description complete with pictures step by step for "EVERYTHING" involved in an Electric WP installation .....I personally prefer to get the waterpump driveshaft and gear "completely" out (and plugged) when doing an electric WP installation.. I NEVER like to have that thing spinning "without" being supported on the waterpump coupler side how it used to be, but that may just be me.........Joe:cool:

tnmotown 04-29-2007 07:13 PM

is there anyone here running an EWP with the gear still "free spinning" in the timing chain? any problems with it?

So If i take the gear out of the timing chain, all i do is take that part out and plug it up with a regular freeze plug?

seawolf06 04-29-2007 09:24 PM

If you wanna take the gear out, you might have to take off the intake and the timing cover. I don't know if you can pull it out, because I just tapped it out from the inside. You should be able to tap a freeze plug in without taking the timing cover off, though. Make sure you don't go too far and hit the timing chain, though.

evilundisguised 04-29-2007 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by tnmotown (Post 4572502)
is there anyone here running an EWP with the gear still "free spinning" in the timing chain? any problems with it?

So If i take the gear out of the timing chain, all i do is take that part out and plug it up with a regular freeze plug?



I am, no problem. It was there spinning before, the only difference is that there's no load on it anymore. It's not exposed to any more/less debris or environmental stress; the stock water pump drive doesn't seal it off or anything.

James Montigny 04-30-2007 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by evilundisguised (Post 4572931)
I am, no problem. It was there spinning before, the only difference is that there's no load on it anymore. It's not exposed to any more/less debris or environmental stress; the stock water pump drive doesn't seal it off or anything.

In there like that for a year and a half, with no issues.


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