You dont need to buy a 1Le bellow. Just make your own. Take your silencer off and plug it up. I used a victoria secrets bottle and cut the bottom off. Dab a little superglue around it and stick it in the hole where the silencer was. There is your smoother flowing free 1Le intake bellow. How many times has this been on the board?

As for mods. 90% of this board will tell you go with CAI and Catback 1st. Which is exactly what i would tell you. Those are what your gonna get the most gains for the $$ at. So pick your catback and pick your CAI. Those are the mods you wanna do.

 

Good question. How many times HAS it been on the board?

But I've got a better question:

How many times has somebody's car swallowed the Victoria Secrets bottle parts when their superglue has failed them?

 

if you can get some used headers for fairly cheap, i'd do that and a cutout. Otherwise, get a cold air intake, hooker catback, and do some maintence stuff (plugs, wires, fuel filter, oil change, tranny fluid and filter). Should make a noticeable difference

 

GEARS was my best mod yet. Not headers or cold air or a cam came close to the seat of the *** pickup.

 

goin from 2.73's to 3.42's WOULD make quite a difference, but he might already have 3.23's (like me ) in which case he'd have to go to somethin like 4.10s, which are a huge waste of gas



btw, i think your gears just helped you get into the power range of your cam and headers

 

I've had mine in for 2 years and my glue hasnt failed me. Hell it wouldnt suck it up anyway, it took all i had to get it up in there. The glue was just a saftey precaution.

 

The 1LE elbow has absolutely no effect on performance. The only thing it does is get rid of the factory resonator (which does not protrude into the flow path). The resonator is simply there to quiet the sound of the intake air. Anybody who has dynoed their car before and after removing the silencer will tell you that there is no performance improvement to be had with the 1LE elbow, only a cleaner engine bay and about 12 ounces of lost weight.

-Chris

 

How are you going to tell me that there's no effect on performance? There's a big difference between a "straight shot" of air, and not a "straight shot" of air.

I dunno about what went on with your car, but I definitely noticed a noticeable difference with mine. The car feels more responsive, as well as a tad smoother.

As far as the resonator not protruding into the flowpath, I completely disagree with you. When the air flows down the tube, there is a "hole" in the regular bellow, which is obviously going to cause an interruption in airflow because of it.

Then there's the 1LE bellow that has NO HOLE, which is obviously NOT going to interrupt the straight flow.

You can all say what you want about the 1LE elbow being a waste of money, but if it were such a waste of money, then WHY are there a hell of a lot of people recommending to get them when the "regular" one breaks?

A straight path of air is always a very good thing.

 

I beleive there may be a gain with the 1le or vortech or trick flow. But it is a very very small gain if there is one. As for the air being protruded into the tube. If if does effect it, it is not by much. Sort of the same if you have a car with t-tops. If you remove the tops and roll up the windows driving 70 mph you will not really get to much air into the car. You can hear the air but it basically passes right on top of the car. It is to short of a distance for much air to go down into the car other then going straight across. Jmho.

 

jeezzz...from readin this i was wondering when somone will mention GEARS.....drop out ir 10 bolt and get a gm 12 bolt rear end with some 5.11's LOLOLOLOL.....or go and get some 4.56 but hey..at least youll own them out of the whole...youll prob spin ur tires off!!! but yea..umm i would have to say..catback, headers, y pipe, and new high flow cat....i have GMMG exhaust, with jet hot LT's and new y pipe and cat but hey...taht was expensive...if i was you..just wait till you get about 2g's and then you can talk abtou some power.......2g's can get you cam, some good used heads...and bam that could add you about 30-50 rwhp...and get a cutout....thats always good.....but SAVE YOUR MONEY>>>>>>more money MORE POWER........... o and hey to all you camaro people...im new to this forum..im on other forums such as..ls1.com and housotn f bodies......nice to meet all of you peeps....LT1 4 eva!!!

 

If you want to get back in the car after dropping your $500 and FEEL the difference- gears without a doubt. All the other stuff looks better on paper than in feels in the seat of your pants. Minus the N2O

 

Ok, I never said that the difference was HUGE. All I said was that I noticed a few improvements from what I had before. I NEVER said they were huge gains.

You use the example of the ttops and the windows up on a car. Ever hear the wind buffeting outside? That's a disruption of airflow, and that's turbulence that you're hearing. The same thing happens in my GTI. I could have the sunroof open, and it gets really loud up there sometimes......almost like the wind makes a "popping" sound.

 

I am gonna give props to Dan on this one.
While I agree it would not be my first mod (and it wasn,t) I do have a 1LE bellows on my car, I could have plugged the hole on the stocker but I had problems with the stock bellows that I will not go into here, it was not a ripping problem.
The 1LE bellows is smoother than a plugged stock one will ever be and if your going to keep modding the car (and who doesn,t) then the 1LE bellows is a worthwhile investment.
The 1LE bellows is part and parcel to upgrading the intake tract.
I don,t like the metal intact bellows cause I think it would have a heat soak problem but thats an argument for another thread .

 

Yes i do hear the air. I know it does cause some resistance. But like i said i don't think it is much because if i stick my hand almost all the way to the top without going outside i can't feel the air hitting my hand untill it goes about even with the roof. I myself have the mod and my stock elbow wasn't ripped. I have both the trick flow and 1le. But i have the trick flow on. It does get hot while the car is off but stays very cool while at idle. I bought the 1le after and was gonna install it but it does not fit with the slp cai. It gets to bunched up at the ruffled part, and protrudes the airflow.