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Old May 27, 2004 | 09:36 AM
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z06 conversion ????

anybody done it is it worth it

i know they sell kits that you can change out

but what also do you have to do to componsate for the swap

will f-body headers fit on the heads and will you have to reprogram the computer

and also when you guys talk about cpmputer tuning your car what do you guys mean

if i do a z06 conversion will i have to get the Cpu as well or what do i do for a conversion

any write ups

help me
Old May 27, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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If your talking an LS6 swap. I beilieve it's a straight swap, expect you will need to put the f-body oil pan on the LS6. You should be good with the stock PCM, just use LS1 edit to reprogam if necessary.
Old May 27, 2004 | 11:07 AM
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Pointless, waste of time in my opinion. You're better off doing a ported heads/cam swap to your LS1 and getting it tuned. You'll get way more than the 410~420hp that would come with a stock LS6 for just as much $$$.
Old May 27, 2004 | 11:51 PM
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I'm in the middle of an LS6 swap on my '98 Z28. I paid $5229 shipped for the new longblock. It's a stock GM motor that puts out 405 HP, how can that be bad? It even comes with a 12 month/12K mile warranty from GM.

I've listened to the arguments that the LS6 isn't worth the money, but it is in my opinion for a couple of reasons. 1) If you have your motor rebuilt to put out 405+ HP, you're not going to get a warranty. 2) If you replace a working LS1, you can sell the LS1 for around $1500, so if you deduct that from the price of a new LS6, you only paid $3729 for a BRAND NEW 405 HP motor with warranty.

I'm putting my LS1 on a stand in my garage as a spare, but if I ever HAVE to sell it, I could.
Old May 28, 2004 | 04:07 PM
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??? for the band director, when you did the ls6 swap could you use the stock injectors and coil packs of the ls1. What are other things you could save off the ls1 if any. I'm interested in doing the swap but I'm trying to figure all the ins and outs of it.
Old May 29, 2004 | 09:45 AM
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??? for the band director, when you did the ls6 swap could you use the stock injectors and coil packs of the ls1. What are other things you could save off the ls1 if any. I'm interested in doing the swap but I'm trying to figure all the ins and outs of it.
The LS6 longblock is a direct swap. I have a '98 so I have the same size injectors as the Z06...however, it is still a direct swap no matter what year your F-Body is. The stock computer programming will still work on it as well. However, in order to get the everything out of the motor HP wise, a dynotune is recommended and I will be getting one as well.

The LS6 longblock even comes with a new waterpump and pulley. Allthough the pulley is a different part # than the LS1 pulley, it's still the same diameter and will still work with the F-Body accessories. The stock LS1 manifolds will even work, but I bought a set of headers for my new LS6.

Yes, the coil packs will swap righ over as well. My '98 has the perimeter bolt valve covers, so I had to buy the bracket that mounts the coil packs to the '99-up valve covers, but that was only an additional $15-$20 or so for the brackets and bolts.

The longblock doesn't come with intake, so I did purchase an LS6 intake from SLP w/EGR provission since I have a '98.

All the sensors and everything will swap right over, but I bought new ones just to be safe.

The PCV system is a little different on the LS6, all you need to match it up to the LS6 system is about a foot of 5/16" hose.

As I said, I'm in the middle of my swap, so I can't give a full report yet, but I'm looking forward to getting it done!

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Old May 31, 2004 | 11:59 PM
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Hey Chris......

fancy seeing you here. I can't wait till U get that sucker installed. I've been too busy to get with my brake program, but should be giving you a call shortly. I'm out.
Old Jun 1, 2004 | 11:48 PM
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Thanks for the input about the swap. (Band director) Now all I have to do is find some1 to buy my ls1 minus injectors and everything else I need to keep to do the swap, I already have a ls6 intake on the ls1, so I won't have to buy one and I kept the old intake when I upgraded.

Update us on the new track/dyno info when your swap is done. (Very Curious)
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 11:06 AM
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you could just turn your LS1 into a LS6, ie heads, cam, intake all for about 2k or less. The LS6 block is nearly identical to our ls1 block so i dont really see the point in getting the block, when my ls1 craps out i am going to just rebuild it to better specs and convert it to an LS1, i was going to go the route of the ls6 block as well, but i didnt think it was worth the extra money for minimal to no gains, plus you dont have to worry about switching stuff over, it all directly bolts up.
Old Jun 4, 2004 | 03:06 PM
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405 hp is just a factory number. i was told they dyno aprox 335-350rwhp by my local speed shop. so there not radically better than the ls1's 290-310rwhp. that said it doesn't sound like a bad price. don't you have to provide a core? another thought, have the new ls6 heads ported for aprox $1200. you could gain 30hp (aprox). i'm not sure why you wouldn't just rebuid your short block, pick your cam, purchase ls6 heads? good luck whatever you choose.
Old Jun 7, 2004 | 10:54 AM
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405 hp is at the fly, not to the wheels, they dyno traditionally anywhere between 350-380 depending on year. But as i said, you can just get heads, cam, intake and bam you have ur self a ls6
Old Jun 7, 2004 | 12:22 PM
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I'm expecting at least 360 rwhp when I get the ls6 in there...I dropped my ls1 out the bottom on Fri., so there's no turning back now. No, there is no core charge when you purchase an ls6...I now have a spare ls1.
Old Jun 7, 2004 | 01:19 PM
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the 335rwhp was for a 01-z06 w/385 factory hp. sorry. i'm living proof that alcohol kills brain cells!
Old Jun 7, 2004 | 05:36 PM
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the LS6 block goes for about 800 dollars on ebay. Also the advantage to the LS6 block I thought was better oil running/flow, to better reduce friction to the heads.
Old Jun 7, 2004 | 06:10 PM
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the ls6 block also has better lower end breathing from cyliner to cylider than early ls1 blocks, about 15% of 01 and 02 f-bodeis got ls6 blocks



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