One of my freinds want to race up with me, he has '98 SS M6 and mine is '00 Z28 A4,(both cars are full-stock) he's claiming that he can beat me, so do u think that the SS is more powerfull than Z28, in other word, shall i race him ??

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Dont quote me, but I 'think' it's just a few small suspension changes and RAM air.

But he's got a M6. I'm pretty sure if he's a good driver he'll beatcha.


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-2002 Red Camaro SS
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That is a drivers race, and the A4 driver has an easier drive but marginally less potential with the stock converter. Should be close.

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2001 Trans Am M6

 

But as I know the RAM air in SS is unused!!

well thanx guys ..I'll appreciate more replies from you ..

 

Race him and find out for your self! I have raced alot of SS's and won most of them when my car was stock. Who cares if you lose, trust me you won't win them all.

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98 Z A4
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289.7 HP
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The "SS" package is basically a looks/handling package (hood, rear spoiler, heavier sway bar, different shocks??, and SS badging all over the car). The SS does have a different exhaust, and a functional Ram-Air hood, but the actual gains of the hood and exhaust are probably minimal (GM claims the SS has 15HP over the Z28, but then again, they say the Corvette has 40HP more than Z28's, and we all know that's a crock of $h!t ).

If you have an auto, and your buddy has a 6-speed, that could win or lose the race for your friend. If he's a good driver, he has a gear advantage over you (3.42's vs 3.23's or 2.73's), and may pull your car by a little. If he can't launch very well, or he's a slow shifter, or whatever, then you could run ahead of him by a little, or you may run almost neck and neck.

Race him for fun and see what happens. It truly could go either way.

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Not exactly. If you look closely you can see that air from the hood scoop of the SS is routed to the front of the engine bay and goes into the air lid. It's a very indirect routing, but it is there.

As far as the race....do you have the 2.73 gears, or 3.23's? Either way, the race will probably depend on who's the better driver.

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Dennis

2000 Camaro SS
Black, A4, 3.23 gears, tinted windows, stock for now

[This message has been edited by Pentatonic (edited August 11, 2002).]

 

This would be a fun race to watch. I wanna go.

Serious ... it's going to be a close race. The tranny and driver skill will be the deciding factor. Your different cam won't be enough.

 

Go kick his a@#, I haven't lost to anyone, on the street yet, I've even wasted a C5, WS6 (twice-two different ones) ,etc. Its all about the launch and quick shifting.

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Thanx guys .. i'm gonna race him soon, yeah will be fun!! and kicking his ...

Mum (Z28) vs her Daughter (SS)

 

"Ram Air" on these particular cars is not entirely true. Ram air implies force induction. The car can't travel fast enough to force feed the engine. It does provide a good source of cold air induction with relatively little obstrucion.
As for the race, if he does beat you, it will only be by tenths of a second which is only noticeable at track track. Z28s have more power than advertised. I say you go take his money.

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2000 Camaro Z28 Monterey Maroon Metallic, auto,leather, 323 posi, Monsoon w/CD, T-tops, K&N

 

I have a 99 Trans Am (auto with 3:23) and raced a 2000 Camaro SS (manual - presumably stock). We raced from a red light up to about 70-80 mph. I beat him by about a 1/4 of a car length - pretty much steady until we stopped. It was very, very close. All the driver here.

Again, I know my car is stock - but I'm not certain if his car was or not. I would think it probbaly was considering how close it was. It was a fun race. Nice know an automatic can compete with a manual. Great autos in these cars.

[This message has been edited by davey (edited August 12, 2002).]

 

Well (experiences) guys thanx a lot, It was really close

Yes, I believed it depends to the driver, I beat him by about 1/2 of a car ...

So, there is no much difference between Z28 & SS engines both are same!

 

They are the same cars, it all comes down to the driver and if your buddy can launch his M6. My brother('95-Z28) used to pull me('97 Z28 M6) a bit with his A4 until I learned how to launch and drive my M6, then I could pull him. Of course now I could waste him with my LS1.

Stock for stock the M6 has a slight advantage, the SS package doesn't do that much for straight line performance.

Nice race by the way!

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I would be curious how an auto with the 2:73 would compare against the manual.

I think the difference would be more noticable.

I thought I saw that the 3:23 is .2 sec faster than the 2:73 which would mean about two car lengths difference 1/4 miles and a car and half difference 0-60.