1st to 2nd shift!?
I was cruising around tonite looking for some action and I see a 2000+ Mustang GT. Finally, after about a good 30 min, we caught a light. Even start then I gain at the very end of first, try to slam second and grind the gear. This happens quite frequently and only when im racing, its only second gear as well. Is this because i don't have the skip shift eliminator? Why do I always grind second? It happened both times i tryed to race this guy and i was really pissed bc i knew i was faster. Thanks to all in advance and please dont tell me that im just a retart, im hoping its not my driving
Well when your racing, your shifting so fast you don't always realize what you are exactly doing. Possibly you are just letting the clutch out too fast before you put the car in second. I had this problem but gradually corrected it.
Other possible problems, check the clutch fluid level, could be low and not moving the clutch as quickly as you want. If you are shifting just as fast into third and it is not grinding, could be a clutch or tranny issue, or your driving.
I don't think the CAGS eliminator would do that to you, but I dunno.
Good Luck
Other possible problems, check the clutch fluid level, could be low and not moving the clutch as quickly as you want. If you are shifting just as fast into third and it is not grinding, could be a clutch or tranny issue, or your driving.
I don't think the CAGS eliminator would do that to you, but I dunno.
Good Luck
could be synchro???
but this is what happend to me.......the shifter has a little ball that goes into the hole...the hole has a plastic little circle and that plastic circle broke.....when i drove it it would be fine....when my buddies drove it they were grinding every gear im like WTF are u doing.....but now its fixed and problem solved....check the plastic circle thing.....i hope u know what im talking about
but this is what happend to me.......the shifter has a little ball that goes into the hole...the hole has a plastic little circle and that plastic circle broke.....when i drove it it would be fine....when my buddies drove it they were grinding every gear im like WTF are u doing.....but now its fixed and problem solved....check the plastic circle thing.....i hope u know what im talking about
it can be cagas related but cags kick in from like 2-4 k rpm so unless u shift between then and slam it or something but....im almost positivve u shift higher then 4...so i dont think its that
bujt if u want cags i have an extra one for sale...email me
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bujt if u want cags i have an extra one for sale...email me
if u want it stik6shift98@team.camaroz28.com
I pretty much was thinkin like Ferocity.You may be a little jumpy with the clutch.learn to shift faster or try to not let clutch out so quick.Besides if you can just get it right that stang aint got a chance in hell
after you get it in 2nd.
Coarse I'm not ruling out Henrys idea about the syncos it's probable.
after you get it in 2nd.Coarse I'm not ruling out Henrys idea about the syncos it's probable.
Re: 1st to 2nd shift!?
Originally posted by allnet777
Thanks to all in advance and please dont tell me that im just a retart, im hoping its not my driving
Thanks to all in advance and please dont tell me that im just a retart, im hoping its not my driving
j/p manwork on it on a back road till you get it right and ten don't gfet to worked up wen you race him. i got really worked up one tme an lost against a 14 second honda!!!!!! (that was in my high 11 second talon)
happy racin,
mike
do you have the clutch in all the way?
i had a problem sort of like that before, where i'd shift into 2nd w/o a problem until it came down to race time... whenever i took first up to the rev limit, the car would grind 2nd, so i tried shifting a few rpm's (A FEW! not like 1000, lmao) lower than the rev limiter and it worked fine. then for 3rd and 4th i took it all the way, no problem-o with the grinding. maybe that'll help you bro cuz it kinda seems like it could be the problem. if it is, granny shifting wont work, just shift before you usually shift, like if you shift at 5.5, shift at 5.2 or 5.3, like 200-300 rpms lower then where you usually shift, and taddaaaaa, lol
and dude... i mean, im sure you already know this by so many ppl telling you, but MAKE SURE you have your foot all the way down on the clutch when your shifting, cuz even though sometimes it works when your foot isnt all the way down, eventually you're gonna grind and that's never good for your car. just get used to putting your foot all the way down when you shift and you'll be str8
i had a problem sort of like that before, where i'd shift into 2nd w/o a problem until it came down to race time... whenever i took first up to the rev limit, the car would grind 2nd, so i tried shifting a few rpm's (A FEW! not like 1000, lmao) lower than the rev limiter and it worked fine. then for 3rd and 4th i took it all the way, no problem-o with the grinding. maybe that'll help you bro cuz it kinda seems like it could be the problem. if it is, granny shifting wont work, just shift before you usually shift, like if you shift at 5.5, shift at 5.2 or 5.3, like 200-300 rpms lower then where you usually shift, and taddaaaaa, lol
and dude... i mean, im sure you already know this by so many ppl telling you, but MAKE SURE you have your foot all the way down on the clutch when your shifting, cuz even though sometimes it works when your foot isnt all the way down, eventually you're gonna grind and that's never good for your car. just get used to putting your foot all the way down when you shift and you'll be str8
Ok thanks to all. I dont know what the little circle thging is and i dont think that I can shift any faster than i do now. But do you htinbk i shgould get it checked out to see if it is a tech problem or just let it be for a bit and practice more?
Originally posted by #7
I think thats the piece inside fork end where the shifter ball lower end connects to fork. like a plastic bushing between the two componants,a race of sorts for the shifter to fork.
I think thats the piece inside fork end where the shifter ball lower end connects to fork. like a plastic bushing between the two componants,a race of sorts for the shifter to fork.
Mine was doing the same thing, and it became progressively harder to put in gear. Turns out to be something defective with master/slave cylinder. The clutch wasn't engaging all the way, and would have a hard time shifting at only HIGH rpms. I've seen it posted several times on ls1tech.com. I'd read on there some as well. Does it feel like your shifting through a brick wall on occasion? It got so bad I was actually missing 2nd gear (hard to do, heh). I now have a ram 402/980 and mcleod adjustable master.. with no probs.
- I doubt it's the isolator cup in the rear offset lever (aka the plastic cup below the shifter)
- If you don't get the same symptoms shifting from 3rd to 4th, I don't think it's your shifting. Maybe your hand positions can be tweaked though
- It could be clutch related. The restriction in the master hydraulic line can cause this problem
How many miles do you have on the car? It could just be the tranny. Bad 1-2 syncro, bent 1-2 shift fork and/or pad, damaged pilot bushing, damaged gear, a binding pilot bearing, etc. Don't know until you pry it open.
You'll need to demonstrate the scenario to the dealer. As soon as they see it's only happening at high RPM's on fast shifts they'll probably call it abuse. At least they did for me. But my symptoms were a clutch pedal sticking to the floor. Turned out to be a failing slave cylinder.
- If you don't get the same symptoms shifting from 3rd to 4th, I don't think it's your shifting. Maybe your hand positions can be tweaked though
- It could be clutch related. The restriction in the master hydraulic line can cause this problem
How many miles do you have on the car? It could just be the tranny. Bad 1-2 syncro, bent 1-2 shift fork and/or pad, damaged pilot bushing, damaged gear, a binding pilot bearing, etc. Don't know until you pry it open.
You'll need to demonstrate the scenario to the dealer. As soon as they see it's only happening at high RPM's on fast shifts they'll probably call it abuse. At least they did for me. But my symptoms were a clutch pedal sticking to the floor. Turned out to be a failing slave cylinder.
It's probably the 2nd gear syncronizer. Our SS shifts fine under normal conditions and when it's warmed up. But if you try to catch second fast when the tranny is cold it's grind city. If it gets to bad then we'll have to pull the tranny and fix it by having all of the pressed paper syncronizers replaced with brass ones. It's pretty common in these trannys.
Usually 2nd or 3rd gears.
Usually 2nd or 3rd gears.
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