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vonmoldy 09-01-2004 12:25 PM

How SLOW are automatics?
 
:confused: I love manual trans because: Cheaper to buy and fix, lighter faster, better gas mileage. But it is annoying driving one stop light to stoplight. MY QUEStion is Talking about stock f body camaro's How much slower is an auto? because i was thinking about buying one.

FLeXNuTZ 09-01-2004 12:38 PM

Re: How SLOW are automatics?
 
Cheaper to maintain/fix the M6? That has definitely not been my experience. As I was told by various shops, a 4l60e is about half the price of a T56 and the 4l60e is a lot cheaper to service/repair/replace. Thats just what I've been told. My $.02

Red96Lt1 09-01-2004 12:47 PM

Re: How SLOW are automatics?
 
If you put a stall in a A4 you can get very consitent track times without having to be an expert M6 driver. Personally, I wouldn't trade my M6 for anything.

wack0 09-01-2004 12:58 PM

Re: How SLOW are automatics?
 
Camaro's arent like Imports or Mustangs, there isnt much difference between A4 and M6.

MarkyMark 09-01-2004 01:22 PM

Re: How SLOW are automatics?
 
The a4 has certain dead spots from a roll where the tranny wont downshift and that is very annoying and can lead to a pretty slow acceleration. From a standstill the automatic is pretty darn fast and with a stall will hang with or beat an m6 with similar mods. Most of the top F-body guys have automatics, not the 4l60e but they are still automatics. Oh and driving and being able to drink something or talk on the phone without having to worry about shifting is always a good thing. I really wish I could have 1 fbody of each, auto for daily driver and m6 for cruiser. Hmm maybe my 2007 camaro will be a m6 :eek:

Need4Camaro 09-01-2004 02:35 PM

Re: How SLOW are automatics?
 
Why in a V6 does everybody rather have a M5? Is the M5 > than the A4 ?

zachw1036 09-01-2004 02:38 PM

Re: How SLOW are automatics?
 
If the person driving the M6 is good then most likely the m6 will be .1-.2 seconds faster. With a stall that changes everything and unless the m6 driver is great you will take him most likely. Just my opinion.

zachw1036 09-01-2004 02:42 PM

Re: How SLOW are automatics?
 

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro
Why in a V6 does everybody rather have a M5? Is the M5 > than the A4 ?

Well the M5 just takes a little better advantage of the 160-200 hp the v6 does have. It makes I more fun when you are underpowered 2.

Just incase you do not know.

The 3.4 Liter V6 had 160 hp. It was standard from 93-97

The 3.8 Liter v6 had 200 hp. It was an option from early 96 to 97 and became the standard v6 engine in 98-02. The 3.8 may have been an option part way through 95 but I am not sure.

Mr. LT1 09-01-2004 02:54 PM

Re: How SLOW are automatics?
 
[QUOTE=It was standard from 93-97

The 3.8 Liter v6 had 200 hp. It was an option from early 96 to 97 and became the standard v6 engine in 98-02. The 3.8 may have been an option part way through 95 but I am not sure.[/QUOTE]

3.8 was an option in 95. 96-02 3.8 was the only v6 available.

zachw1036 09-01-2004 03:16 PM

Re: How SLOW are automatics?
 
[QUOTE=Mr. LT1]

Originally Posted by It was standard from 93-97

The 3.8 Liter v6 had 200 hp. It was an option from early 96 to 97 and became the standard v6 engine in 98-02. The 3.8 may have been an option part way through 95 but I am not sure.[/QUOTE

3.8 was an option in 95. 96-02 3.8 was the only v6 available.


Could have swore you could get the 3.4 or the 3.8 in 95-97? Can anyone verify that the 3.8 was the only v6 engine available in 96 and 97? I know it was from 98 and on. I just wanna know which way is right. Thanks.

Kataklysm 09-01-2004 04:34 PM

Re: How SLOW are automatics?
 
Auto is barely slower then M6. I kept up with an M6 2002 Z28 (he made 315 rwp and ran a 12.9) until 100mph (when it shifted into OD :( )I have LT1 A4 with headers, catback, 160 thermo and a few suspension mods.

Need4Camaro 09-01-2004 04:41 PM

Re: How SLOW are automatics?
 
Yeah, The 3.8 was the ONLY V6 you could get after 95... They came alittle before the new body styles came. The only thing that surprised me when I found out was that the 3.4's only had 160 HP stock :eek: .. The one I test drove felt like it had more than 160 but thats what it says... just 160...

In 95 some 3.8's were made only for California, it was a test I believe, then it became the standard engine after 95 for the V6...

sabre81 09-01-2004 05:12 PM

Re: How SLOW are automatics?
 
SLOW? nah but id trade my car for a bone stock 94 with an M6 anyday. Just the fun factor of a manual is worth it.

toneloc12345 09-01-2004 05:46 PM

Re: How SLOW are automatics?
 
I wanted to get a M6 car but i would never have found one for the price I bought my car at. That said, i do like not having to shift in town, i like not worrying about missing a shift, and it's barely slower, and a used tranny doesn't cost $1500. Actually in a lot of cases its faster because not everyone is an expert shifter. I do miss the gas mileage and cool factor of a manual.

TONY


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