Clock always lit
Hi, guys!
Well, that is the problem on my Camaro'95 3.4. Clock always stays lit (I mean when ign is off especially) and discharge my batterу for couple of days. How could I fix it? I googled this problem, and it's a common problem for different cars. |
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Check to see if your wipers still work with the ignition off. If so, you have a defective ignition switch. The radio and wipers are on the same section of the ignition switch.
If the wipers do not work, the problem is likely with the RAP module (if installed) being defective. Normally it shuts off radio power 10 minutes after the ignition switch goes off. |
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Or your radio might have gone bad. It's not an uncommon thing.
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Long time since my audio was removed, but wasn't it possible to display the time BRIEFLY with the ignition off, by pressing one of the knobs (would only stay on while holding the knob in - or was that maybe just a Firebird feature?)? Maybe the knob is stuck "in".
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There's an easy way to check this: Pull the Radio fuse from the instrument panel fuse block. If the display goes out, the fault is in the car outside the radio, except for a possible stuck knnob. If not, the fault is in the radio. The only other power to the radio has nothing to do with the clock display, just the button lights and memory.
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Originally Posted by GaryDoug
(Post 6981656)
Check to see if your wipers still work with the ignition off. If so, you have a defective ignition switch. The radio and wipers are on the same section of the ignition switch.
If the wipers do not work, the problem is likely with the RAP module (if installed) being defective. Normally it shuts off radio power 10 minutes after the ignition switch goes off. RAM module, if I understood this correctly, never used since I bought a car. If you mean this plug above pedals) |
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Originally Posted by GaryDoug
(Post 6981699)
There's an easy way to check this: Pull the Radio fuse from the instrument panel fuse block. If the display goes out, the fault is in the car outside the radio, except for a possible stuck knob. If not, the fault is in the radio. The only other power to the radio has nothing to do with the clock display, just the button lights and memory.
And I'm not sure I understand the last thought) What exactly do you meant? |
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Originally Posted by Injuneer
(Post 6981693)
Maybe the knob is stuck "in". Just a thought.
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Originally Posted by Latronaxe
(Post 6981704)
Previous owner set fuses with different numbers, most of them.
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Originally Posted by Latronaxe
(Post 6981704)
Previous owner set fuses with different numbers, most of them. Could it be a problem? I will try to unplug it today, thanks.
And I'm not sure I understand the last thought) What exactly do you meant? But which one?) Which radio do you have - the "standard" radio or the Delco-Bose system? The fuses I mentioned above are based on Shoebox's diagram for the 1995 Delco-Bose system. He does not have the 95 standard radio, but I would expect the fuses would be the same. http://shbox.com/1/bose_wiring.jpg |
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Originally Posted by Injuneer
(Post 6981709)
I only have the 94 factory manual, not the 95, but the 94 manual indicates that when the ignition key is in the "OFF" position, "simply push the upper knob or the 'RCL' button, The time will display for five seconds."
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Originally Posted by GaryDoug
(Post 6981708)
Are you saying the previous owner rewired the fuse panel? If so, that is likely the problem unless this problem started long after that..
Originally Posted by Injuneer
(Post 6981709)
Or..... do you mean the amp ratings shown on the fuses to not match the amp ratings shown on the diagram on the cover? Which would not affect the operation of the radio, or the results of pulling the fuse.
I think Gary was explaining - there are three power supplies to the radio. One is ignition switch power, via fuse #17 on the instrument panel fuse block. That supplies power to everything in the radio, EXCEPT the station/security memory (battery power via fuse #8) and the lighting behind the knobs (dimmer switch fuse via fuse #13). The fact that you can display the time with the ignition key in the "OFF" position would seem to indicate that the clock may be supplied with battery power.... but I suspect Gary has been inside these radios and knows better than I do. I only have the 94 factory manual, not the 95, but the 94 manual indicates that when the ignition key is in the "OFF" position, "simply push the upper knob or the 'RCL' button, The time will display for five seconds." Which radio do you have - the "standard" radio or the Delco-Bose system? The fuses I mentioned above are based on Shoebox's diagram for the 1995 Delco-Bose system. He does not have the 95 standard radio, but I would expect the fuses would be the same. http://shbox.com/1/bose_wiring.jpg I think 94 and 95 are almost the same... What is RCL button? Ign key? I have only one button above ign key, it's hazard lights. |
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You press a button ON THE RADIO, not near the ignition key. On the radio face there are two round knobs toward the left side... one is on the top, one is on the bottom. Press and hold the center of the top knob (or at least make sure it isn't stuck).
Just to the right of the top knob on the radio face, there are two rectangular buttons. The top one is labeled "SET", the lower one is labeled "RCL". Press and hold the RCL button. The standard radio is labeled "Delco Electronics" just to the left of the clock and is RPO code "UN6" on the service parts label in the glove box. The optional upgrade radio is labeled "Delco BOSE" just to the left of the clock and is RPO code "UU8". The wiring is different for the two radios. And I know from 94 to 95 some of the fuse assignments were changed. |
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I made a picture
https://pp.vk.me/c627529/v627529269/...8EiYUC9ovs.jpg And what should I do now? I see no RCL button) Battery unplugged, that's why the clock is off. |
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Look at the top knob
The center of the top knob is a button Immediately under the knob, it says "PROG-RCL" with a button symbol. That indicates that the button in the center of the knob functions as both the PROGRAM and the RCL function. Pressing the button will recall the station being played or the time. If this is still not clear, read pages 3-6 to 3-9 of your Owner's Manual. If you do not have the Owner's Manual, click here and download it (courtesy of Shoebox): http://shbox.com/pdf/1995camaro.pdf |
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I'm slowpoke :-D
Thank you. But I'm still little bit confused about what I have to do next. Do I need to unplug radio and turn something off? |
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You said the radio always has the clock on. People suggested several POSSIBLE causes. None of these are guaranteed to be the source of the problem. They are just suggestions of the possible cause.
I mentioned the RCL button, because if it is stuck in the pushed-in position, the clock may stay on continuously. See if the button is stuck "in". If it's not, then that's not causing the problem. You have to follow through on all the suggestions that were made. |
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Hi, fellas!
Well, I did things you suggested, nothing helps. 1. Manipulated with RCL button. Nothing's happened. 2. Took out fuses. Still lit when radio fuse and another one taken off. |
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Sounds like you need a new radio.
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No, it's not an option) I need it to be fixed)
p.s. and btw, I don't now, where I should enter my "signature", can't find this option in profile settings. |
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Then you need to find someone in your country who can repair it for you.
SIGNATURE: Here is the link, with clearly written instructions: https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/lt1...nature-879835/ I just noticed I gave you that link 6 MONTHS AGO |
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Thanks. That's sad anyway...
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What do you find "sad".... my noting that you failed to add a signature 6 months ago, or telling you that the radio needs to be repaired?
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Of course, it's about radio) Because there is more and more problems (break fluid leakage, transmission oil leakage, new battery) and that's money-money-money...
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It's a 20 year old vehicle.
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No only is it 20 years old but these cars have always been considered specialty or collector cars. You would be better off with a 95 Toyota Camry if you need reliability at that age. Or maybe a Lada ;-)
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No way) I love my Kamarik ))
Btw, guys, could you pls tell me (or show it in some manuals), how can I turn off radio/clock manually? I mean just plug it off from the hole. Still have no money for service) |
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There's no easy way to do that in this case. You would have to unplug the connectors at the back of the radio, which means removing it. I'm not sure about Camaros, but Firebirds just need the plastic bezel pulled off (very gently and evenly), then remove 3 screws from the radio.
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Originally Posted by Latronaxe
(Post 6982621)
Hi, fellas!
Well, I did things you suggested, nothing helps. 1. Manipulated with RCL button. Nothing's happened. 2. Took out fuses. Still lit when radio fuse and another one taken off. I think Gary was explaining - there are three power supplies to the radio. One is ignition switch power, via fuse #17 on the instrument panel fuse block. That supplies power to everything in the radio, EXCEPT the station/security memory (battery power via fuse #8) and the lighting behind the knobs (dimmer switch fuse via fuse #13). The fact that you can display the time with the ignition key in the "OFF" position would seem to indicate that the clock may be supplied with battery power.... but I suspect Gary has been inside these radios and knows better than I do. |
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Injuneer, it's not a joke, I just NEW in all of that stuff. It's my first car. I tried with all of that fuses, I took all of it off in all possible combinations, and clock STILL LIT, no matter what I did. I'm not so pro as u, and yes, need some deeper explanations about the stuff u think easy...
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Hey guys,
We all wrong. It was not about radio. Previous owner (curse him) did something with wires there (I knew that year ago, but I thought it was just in one place). My mechanics turned this radio off for a while (it causes constant leakage ~0.3A of current) and told me that it needs more work to find WTH this shmack did... |
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