just wondering how many of you are interested in the lt1 turbo kit that brad wants to design, i know he's getting alot of responce and intresting ideas from all of us, i hope this will be the awnser to a totally awsome kit that can go from mild to wild on both stock lt1 and built to the s##t lt1's, and the main thing is i hope it's affordable and easy to bolt on what are you guys thinking? lets get some more feedback going on this topic...

 

How will it compare with the CAS kits?

 

I'm definitely up for it. The kits they have for the Mustangs are of amazingly high quality and that should speak enough for itself. A couple more weeks and we should know some details. (waiting for the donor car)

 

I don't think you are gonna get both worlds... go from mild to wild setup... You can build a cost effective simple system that works ok on a stock motor. (restrictions high compression) The cost can be fairly cheap. When you get into making insane hp.. The cost goes up so the turbo is sized right, the tubing is quality, the intercooler is large. I don't see it happening to please everyone or even close. If you want a system for a stock LT1 turbo tech has an OK answer nothing great IMO.but when you get into serious hp the system really begins to add up what is needed.

Steven

 

I'm past the point to where i care about a kit that will work with a stock LT1. Face it, with the high compression on a stock bottom end, combined with the weak pistons, the results are very limited. Why spend 5-6k to have the results of a 3k head n cam motor, and sacrifice reliability. Sure, the novelty of a twin turbo kit is great, but not worth the money they can make the kit for, + turn a profit, when we are considering stock motor applications.

I just want a set of turbo headers, and either a single or twin turbos that can support 1k rwhp, for when the time comes that i need it. This will leave pleanty of room to grow, and This will save me the trouble of fabbin up my own stuff, which att, i am severely unqualified to do.

I won't need injectors, fuel system, tuning, intercooler. I'll already have all that stuff when I switch from SC to Turbo, so i'm not really interested in a complete kit. I'm sure other SC guys who allready have built motors would also consider switching over to turbos, if it wasn't too much hassle.

So if the CAS system is going to be more concentrated on a mild setup, Turbolocity should focus on a more wild setup.

 

And guess what! As a business they arent going to cater to what you want! they cant realistically cater to the people that are wanting 800+ rwhp, and BTW, when exactly is the time going to come when you NEED 1000rwhp? (so you're going to make your car a totall dedicated race/track/trailor queen car, right?) Most people want something that will work on a stock motor to start with, until they can afford a motor that will support more power. And unless they do decide to sell parts seperately, they cant assume that one person already has these components, and another person already has those.

 

Why focus on making and selling a kit that is capped at say 8 psi max since you cant play much with a stock shortblock? There is little area for the consumer to play in with FI/stock shortblock and only a certain point a company can go to in FI for a stock LT1. It is a mute point in my opinion.

If you have $6k to blow on a turbo kit and have a stock shortblock you need your head examined. Spend $2k on a heads cam setup, or spend $3k on a rebuild and $3k on a blower setup and throw 15#s on it.

Sorry i dont see the logic in producing soley, or buying a turbo kit for a stock shortblock.

 

I do agree on Ken's thoughts cause gotta remember these motor's aren't new and how many people are going to do a stock rebuild when they pop their motor

Steven.

 

Let them make the kit, and sell it for $5-6k for the stock LT1. If there are people who are stupid enough to pay for it, then let them. I personally wouldn't, but there are a lot of idiots out there.

 

Brad has already stated that one of the most important things they're taking into consideration while designing this kit is to make it flexible, able to grow with someone's setup(whether it be stock or not). It won't strictly be for a street car. No doubt they'll market just the headers too. If they didn't then it would be wasted potential profit, which I highly doubt they'll pass up.

As they grow they'll expand their market for the f-body. If this thing gets off the ground then in a couple of years there will be a "mild to wild" line up for us. Just give them a little time.

And for heaven's sake, DON'T PESTER THEM!!! . We finally get a company who is truely interested in us, don't run them off with individual demands and complaints before they even get started. How many companies do you know of that actually goes out to the customers and asks what they want before developing a product? Not many. In fact, Turbolocity is the first I've seen do that. Just let them work, they're obviously anxious to get this one right and for a fair price.

 

They are wanting to much for the kit. Make a single kit in the 3500 range and it would be alot more popular.....IMHO

Jose

 

uh, they don't have a price. They don't even have the donor car yet. Brad said that around $4K is possible, but he's staying mute about it until they get the car and begin working on it.

 

If you guys actually read all the posts at their forum you would have found that no final price is set or any configuration yet till they get the donor car.

But with the help from our input they will try to keep it within the cost of a blower setup, make it upgradeable, and give the buyer plenty of options. Don't shoot anything down till it is done.

I am all for the kit and am glad that someone is finally going to try to make a good kit.

 

I don't see a kit for 3500 (there is the turbo tech kit) Which most know my feelings on so won't beat a dead horse. If you want something like that prob can be done but it is not going to make a company tons of money to want to focus on a chassis with an engine platform that was stopped production in 97. Then secondly what will the quality of said kit be? I am not saying don't do it. Hey if they want to build the kit for 3500 go right ahead. We both know that they will not be making much profit if any at that cost using all new parts, then you have your jig cost and r&d cost, Just seems like a losing battle to me.

For a street kit in the 3500-4k range you are gonna be cutting it close
800 for the turbo (simple turbo)
200-350 for a wastegate (nothing flashy)
700 for an intercooler (not a huge one just one that will work)
tubing another 1500
$80-90 for rubber hose to connect turbo to intercooler to intake
rubber connectors,
$50-75 for hose clamps (min of 10)
$20 max but still bolts,
$50 gaskets,
$50 oil lines,
$50 air filter,
So at the high side roughly 3700 (rounding) and that is with lil profit in there. Using a small turbo,
Just seems like it prob wont be done from my looking at it, the small parts do add up then you have to factor in these guys want to make a profit at it.

I don't see them making a kit that can support hp wants of a stock car and a high hp car as well. I would just like to see a turbo recomendation besides Oh it needs a t-76. Why cause there is so many turbos that are in between and most will not see the full benefits of a single t-76. Where a t-66 or other choise will benefit them better.

Do not mean to sound course. but i really think they Could have a good product if they make something. I just will be interested at its high and low points (every system has them)

 

i agree the kit should first be based on a stock motor and be able to upgrade as you grow and want more power, as far as the 800-1000 rwhp,thats just crazy to make a kit like that unless you want them to custom make it for you, most all of us drive our f-bodys everyday and want the reliabilty of a powerful car without any trouble, as far as the price goes, i think people dont mind paying for quality because you know what your getting, oh well...enough said for now, we'll just have to wait and see what brad brings to the table, im sure it will be good whatever it is...