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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 08:58 AM
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guaging interest:sts turbo set-up

alright Im considering buying an STS turbo set up for the bird, but theres a few things that Im concerned about. #1 I know its under the car, its going to get road grim and $hit all over it.... #2 does that precharger (the sleeve that fits over the filter) does that really keep everything out, like water? that would be one thing Id be worried about as well. And #3 do they have alot of turbo lag due to the fact that it is so far away from the engine? let me know how you guys feel about these turbo set-ups, and let me know of anything else that you know about them or any other opinion's. Thanks guys,
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 08:59 AM
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http://www.ststurbo.com/f_a_q
Old Jun 2, 2005 | 09:21 AM
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damn, well I guess that answers all the questions that I had in mind.. However I would like to hear some input from some people that have actually had one of these set-ups... Anyone? ttt
Old Jun 2, 2005 | 09:25 AM
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We have a forced induction section where-in this has been discussed many times
Old Jun 2, 2005 | 09:56 AM
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I'd rather drive a 3-cylinder Geo than run one of those absolutely moronic setups.
Old Jun 2, 2005 | 10:09 AM
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WTF is that thing? Never seen anything like that before? Isn't there a bit of turbo lag? wouldn't you loose about of the compression through the air inlet pipe that is like 7 ft long?

This this is wierd?
Old Jun 2, 2005 | 10:27 AM
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the turbo is sized to eliminate lag for the most part. And the long piping actually acts AS an intercooler, so there's no need for an extra one. If I were to use one I'd make sure to run ceramic coated exhaust ans posisbly wrap as well all the way back TO the turbo unit. You want as much heat to make it into the compressor as possible. Heat = energy

There are a LOT of people out there actually using these and not just theorizing about whether or not the setup is stupid. Talk to them before you take the word of people who have only read the ads and thought it was a bad idea. These gusy have been in just about EVERY magazine on the performance market.

Is is the ideal setup? Doubt it. But if you like the clean engine compartment, the sltealth of a hidden turbo, the ease of installation, and still plenty of power for a lower cost, I'd still look at it.
Old Jun 2, 2005 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Timberwolf
the turbo is sized to eliminate lag for the most part. And the long piping actually acts AS an intercooler, so there's no need for an extra one. If I were to use one I'd make sure to run ceramic coated exhaust ans posisbly wrap as well all the way back TO the turbo unit. You want as much heat to make it into the compressor as possible. Heat = energy

There are a LOT of people out there actually using these and not just theorizing about whether or not the setup is stupid. Talk to them before you take the word of people who have only read the ads and thought it was a bad idea. These gusy have been in just about EVERY magazine on the performance market.

Is is the ideal setup? Doubt it. But if you like the clean engine compartment, the sltealth of a hidden turbo, the ease of installation, and still plenty of power for a lower cost, I'd still look at it.

I'd rather be a$$-rammed by a syphaletic monkey than use that ghetto setup of a turbo kit.
And being in a lot of performance mags means absolutely ZERO. APE was in a lot of mags too.
Old Jun 2, 2005 | 10:48 AM
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I'd rather be a$$-rammed by a syphaletic monkey
too each their own I guess

I'm just saying do your homework instead of listening to people like this who have never used one or tested one. Check over on ls1tech, there's a few people over there with them pushing 600+ rwhp with minor mods.
Old Jun 2, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Timberwolf
too each their own I guess

I'm just saying do your homework instead of listening to people like this who have never used one or tested one. Check over on ls1tech, there's a few people over there with them pushing 600+ rwhp with minor mods.

There's a lot of people on LS1tech that have sub-human intelligence too. I put almost no faith in any of their claims.
Old Jun 2, 2005 | 11:15 AM
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Well, I don't like the setup either, but you can't argue with the results, unless you have sub-human intelligence.
Old Jun 2, 2005 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by cASe SenSiTive
I'd rather be a$$-rammed by a syphaletic monkey than use that ghetto setup of a turbo kit.
And being in a lot of performance mags means absolutely ZERO. APE was in a lot of mags too.
I think that the STS is an innovative design, but i wouldnt choose one myself. Underhood Turbos are the way to go, unless your looking for a cheaper turbo setup.
Old Jun 2, 2005 | 12:49 PM
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Well, I don't like the setup either, but you can't argue with the results, unless you have sub-human intelligence.

I can argue with the "results" since I believe them to be false.

That design is stupid beyond belief. Ask anyone with real knowledge about turbos.
Old Jun 2, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cASe SenSiTive
There's a lot of people on LS1tech that have sub-human intelligence too. I put almost no faith in any of their claims.
Dammit, all my water is on my keyboard now...thanks.

the turbo is sized to eliminate lag for the most part. And the long piping actually acts AS an intercooler, so there's no need for an extra one. If I were to use one I'd make sure to run ceramic coated exhaust ans posisbly wrap as well all the way back TO the turbo unit. You want as much heat to make it into the compressor as possible. Heat = energy
Then why does everyone who makes 8 trillion horse (and run high 11s) run a FMIC with them? That statement always made me laugh.

<--officially labeled an STS 'hater' on LS1Tech
Old Jun 2, 2005 | 02:31 PM
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I'm arguing for or against them, I'm just saying do your research. There's people running them, then there's people who think they won't work because they knopw everything about turbos. I would talk to people running them. I didn't think it was a good idea either when they first came out. But I'm open minded enough to look into it further before telling the world they suck or they don't.

So Tom, how's your turbo car coming along? Oh wait, your turbo is on your diesel and you didn't design it? You don't have a turbo car? oh, so you must work for a turbo company. Or design the systems. Oh, you work in IT and NOT deisgning turbos? You mean you're NOT an engineer? I see



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