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reamo04 Apr 23, 2009 09:55 PM

2 step w/ 4l60e?
 
Wondering if anybody is running a 2 step w/ their 4l60e?

AL SS590 M6 Apr 24, 2009 06:16 AM

I have in the past. What is your concern? All a 2 step does is to limit launch rpm.

reamo04 Apr 24, 2009 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by AL SS590 M6 (Post 5937162)
I have in the past. What is your concern? All a 2 step does is to limit launch rpm.

I need one to build boost on the line, was just wondering if anybody ran one. Were you running an MSD?

mdacton Apr 24, 2009 10:38 AM

how do you do it without a t-brake?

reamo04 Apr 24, 2009 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by mdacton (Post 5937540)
how do you do it without a t-brake?

if you woulda read taht link i sent ya yesterday instead of just saying "not my cup of tea" you would know :p

same was a 6 speed car builds boost with a 2-step

mdacton Apr 24, 2009 10:23 PM

boost or not, how do you use a 2 step without a tbrake on an auto?

reamo04 Apr 24, 2009 11:15 PM


Originally Posted by mdacton (Post 5938519)
boost or not, how do you use a 2 step without a tbrake on an auto?

well, im not an expert on it, but you wire it up so that when your brake pedal is depressed fully, the 2-step is engaged.

So while the brake is all the way depressed and the 2-step is engaged, u are free to get on the gas, bringing it to the 2-step limiter as long as your stall is high enough, and your brakes will hold.

AL SS590 M6 Apr 25, 2009 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by reamo04 (Post 5938582)
well, im not an expert on it, but you wire it up so that when your brake pedal is depressed fully, the 2-step is engaged.

So while the brake is all the way depressed and the 2-step is engaged, u are free to get on the gas, bringing it to the 2-step limiter as long as your stall is high enough, and your brakes will hold.

Exactly which allows you to limit rpms with the throttle blades wide open which allows a turbo car to build some boost, only up to what the brakes will hold but that's way more than with the throttle closed.

mdacton Apr 25, 2009 07:23 AM

I just don't see this working at all.......

will it not load and unload the chassis constantly on the limiter? I just see this turning out badly...

MichiganSkip Apr 25, 2009 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by mdacton (Post 5938782)
I just don't see this working at all.......

will it not load and unload the chassis constantly on the limiter? I just see this turning out badly...

I run one on mine. So far the chassis can't react as fast as the 2 step does as far as load/unload. For a turbo w/auto maybe a T-Brake would be a better choice though. It would allow him to build boost faster.

reamo04 Apr 25, 2009 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by s_willis (Post 5938813)
I run one on mine. So far the chassis can't react as fast as the 2 step does as far as load/unload. For a turbo w/auto maybe a T-Brake would be a better choice though. It would allow him to build boost faster.

except im not spending $600 for a rossler t-brake for a 4l60e. I refuse to get rid of my overdrive, therefore the 4l60e or a 4l80e will always be in place unless i swap in a 6 speed.

AL SS590 M6 Apr 26, 2009 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by mdacton (Post 5938782)
I just don't see this working at all.......

will it not load and unload the chassis constantly on the limiter? I just see this turning out badly...

How is anything going to unload. For example with a 3500 stall and the limiter set at 2800 with your foot planted on the floor and the rpm constant at say 2800, at least with a Harlan 2 step it is constant, how does it unload?

Kevin Blown 95 TA Apr 26, 2009 06:41 AM

It will work to get him spooled but not for shocking the chassis and tires to get that hard bite you're looking for on the launch. It's been tough dealing with these transmissions all these years just to have the overdrive and get reasonable mileage on a street/strip car. Wonder how it's going to be for the guys with the 6 speeds.

AL SS590 M6 Apr 27, 2009 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by Kevin Blown 95 TA (Post 5939717)
It will work to get him spooled but not for shocking the chassis and tires to get that hard bite you're looking for on the launch.

As far as I know you don't have to shock a chassis to get the tires to hook. Maybe my car is too slow but I brake torque to 2500rpm and dead hook drag radials, pulling the tires about 8'', and get high 1.4 to low 1.5 sixties. No shocking involved.

camaro81 Apr 27, 2009 08:58 AM


boost or not, how do you use a 2 step without a tbrake on an auto?
People have used a 4 wheel line lock setup with a 2 step without any problems, though I've been told it doesn't release as consistantly as a transbrake.


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