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djm_e22 09-16-2009 06:03 PM

If I'm just doing 1/8th mile wouldn't 2.5 STR converter be the best option
 
I will be installing a Th350 soon, so since 2.5 STR converters are good for launch purposes but aren't very efficent up top, wouldn't they be best for 1/8th mile races since your top speed won't be near as high as a 1/4 mile race?

In other words as long as you hook on take off 2.5 STR should 95% of the time get the best E.T. in the 1/8h compared to a lower STR, when in the 1/4 mile race this might not be the case. Sound about right?

rskrause 09-17-2009 12:22 PM

The term "stall torque ratio" is pretty much meaningless. There is no standardized way to measure it. Basically, ignore it. I have never heard a serious racer talk about it.

Rich

djm_e22 09-17-2009 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by rskrause (Post 6111073)
The term "stall torque ratio" is pretty much meaningless. There is no standardized way to measure it. Basically, ignore it. I have never heard a serious racer talk about it.

Rich

So there is no difference between a 1.6 STR and 2.5 STR??

AutoRoc 09-17-2009 03:50 PM

If there is, we would love to see results and data.

:)

djm_e22 09-17-2009 05:05 PM

Below is according to Performabuilt. So I assume this is full of crap.

"To help you choose, here is some additional information about Stall Torque Ratio. Stall torque ratio is the multiplier for torque for a short time when the car is launching. Higher STR will give a much higher torque multiplication for a very short time right at launch, but with an overall cost in efficiency at the top end. In other words, higher STR will increase your 60 ft times, but it may be at the expense of MPH at the top end. Lower STR, while it will not deliver the punch at the bottom like a higher STR, will give torque multiplication for a longer period of time and may allow you to place more power to the ground with less spinning. Additionally, the over all efficiency is much better. Where a 2.5 STR might be only 90 percent efficient above rated stall, a 1.69 would be 96 percent efficient above rated stall (both these numbers based on converter not locked). This means you put more power to the ground throughout the run down the track."

rskrause 09-17-2009 05:08 PM

So, tell me how you measure it?

Rich

djm_e22 09-17-2009 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by rskrause (Post 6111475)
So, tell me how you measure it?

Rich

Measure what? Effeciency or amount of torque???

MY91Y84 09-17-2009 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by rskrause (Post 6111475)
So, tell me how you measure it?

Rich

maybe making paases with both converters of the same stall speed but changing the STR?..

djm_e22 09-17-2009 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by MY91Y84 (Post 6111498)
maybe making paases with both converters of the same stall speed but changing the STR?..

Sounds about right to me.

rskrause 09-18-2009 05:47 AM

You realize that even transbrake equipped cars usually do not launch at stall speed? And if you are not using a brake, it's not possible to launch at the stall speed? Take a look at the websites or catalog of leading converter manufacturers (Coan, ATI, Neal, etc.). They sure don't sell converters based on "STR".

Anyway, if I haven't made my point, go ahead and do what you want. It will probably work fine but not because of some mythical "Stall Torque Ratio".

Rich


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