Crank fuel enrichment problem on '95 LT1 w/ 84# injectors
#1
Crank fuel enrichment problem on '95 LT1 w/ 84# injectors
I recently installed a set of 84 lb/hr Delphi injectors in my '95 LT1 with LJ's Accelleronics Impedence Converter.
With an 86 lb/hr injector constant, the Lterms are 126 - 131. The car idles and drives fine, and the A/F ratio at WOT looks good.
However, when cranking the car (cold or hot), it doesn't start very well. If you hold the throttle open, though, it starts up fine.
I have set the injector offsets to zero at 8 - 10 volts to lean it on start up, which has helped. However, it still doesn't start quickly.
I've seen in the tuned port and '93 LT1's a table for Crank Fuel Addition. However, that table isn't in TunerCAT. I think that leaning this table would make my car start right.
Does anyone know how to access that table?
Any other suggestions?
Thanks,
Mike
With an 86 lb/hr injector constant, the Lterms are 126 - 131. The car idles and drives fine, and the A/F ratio at WOT looks good.
However, when cranking the car (cold or hot), it doesn't start very well. If you hold the throttle open, though, it starts up fine.
I have set the injector offsets to zero at 8 - 10 volts to lean it on start up, which has helped. However, it still doesn't start quickly.
I've seen in the tuned port and '93 LT1's a table for Crank Fuel Addition. However, that table isn't in TunerCAT. I think that leaning this table would make my car start right.
Does anyone know how to access that table?
Any other suggestions?
Thanks,
Mike
#3
Mike,
Are you using Tuner Cat? If you are using it and if you have a registered copy of the software email TC at TunerCat. He has a new EE definition file that has cranking AFR vs Distributor reference pulses, and 4 priming pulse tables. That will fix your problem, I have large injectors in my blown 396 LT4 and I had a similar problem but not as bad as yours.
Are you using Tuner Cat? If you are using it and if you have a registered copy of the software email TC at TunerCat. He has a new EE definition file that has cranking AFR vs Distributor reference pulses, and 4 priming pulse tables. That will fix your problem, I have large injectors in my blown 396 LT4 and I had a similar problem but not as bad as yours.
Last edited by tjwong; 01-02-2004 at 04:02 PM.
#5
For Forced Induction, use a BSFC of .65 because they like to run richer. The extra fuel cools the intake charge.
84 * 8 * .8 / .65 = 827 hp
Also, I was going to use 75 lb/hr:
75 * 8 * .8 / .65 = 738 hp
However, I talked to LJ:
http://para.noid.org/~lj
He recommended the 84 lb injectors because there is no 'disadvantage' to using them. They don't cost much more than 75's, but they'll support more power.
The downside to very large injectors is that the computer may not be able to cut the pulse width enough at idle. But, he said his 75's had an idle PW of 1.3 ms and his 95's have an idle PW of 1.0 ms, which is the lowest the computer will go. So, the 84's will support a ton of power and idle at >1 ms PW, the best of both worlds.
Mike
84 * 8 * .8 / .65 = 827 hp
Also, I was going to use 75 lb/hr:
75 * 8 * .8 / .65 = 738 hp
However, I talked to LJ:
http://para.noid.org/~lj
He recommended the 84 lb injectors because there is no 'disadvantage' to using them. They don't cost much more than 75's, but they'll support more power.
The downside to very large injectors is that the computer may not be able to cut the pulse width enough at idle. But, he said his 75's had an idle PW of 1.3 ms and his 95's have an idle PW of 1.0 ms, which is the lowest the computer will go. So, the 84's will support a ton of power and idle at >1 ms PW, the best of both worlds.
Mike
#6
Whats your closed throttle spark advance?
and low RPM cranking advance?
I had this same problem, even after leaning it out at starting it still didnt start too well. Setting my closed throttle spark advance to 40 i dont even have to tocuh the gas pedal and it fires right up on 1st crank.
and low RPM cranking advance?
I had this same problem, even after leaning it out at starting it still didnt start too well. Setting my closed throttle spark advance to 40 i dont even have to tocuh the gas pedal and it fires right up on 1st crank.
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