Did the 1970 camaro z28 have the 302ci engine as an option? All the info I've found on the net says it had a 350. Reason I ask is because I recall an episode of Car and Driver Television when they had a segment called "classic car and driver". They showed a black 70 z28 and the owner said it had the original 302.

 

302 was just a 67-69 option. The 1970 model had the lt-1 350 because they were allowed to use engines bigger than 305ci starting in the 1970 season. Unless it was some super rare factory test model, or a late built 1969 Camaro, which could if chevy had decided been labeled a 1970 Camaro it did not come with a 302 stock.

 

Due to a strike at the factory, the 70 models were late to come out, hence the 70-1/2 designation. The first 6 months of the 70 model year they built the "69" model, so there are some running around with 1970 titles. But everyone still calls them 69's.
Only motor avail in the 70 Z28 was the LT-1 350, slightly detuned from the Corvette, rated at 360 hp. Also 70 was the first year that autos were avail in the Z-28.

 

Car and Drive screws up lots. They had a bit on the Grand Nationals once and outlined their history.

They then said the engine lived on in the Syclones/Typhoons.

Fools! Those had CHEVY 4.3L not Buick 3.8L

 

Yeah Car and Driver must have been way wrong, but i am almost certain it was a '70 second gen.

 

There's no way anyone could misstake one for the other, as they had completely different body styles. I've heard about these 70's titled 69's but I've never seen one. You would also have to have some pretty good documentation as most would think it was a foney.

 

Once the SCCA allowed manufacturers to destroke engines for the 1970 Trans Am Season, Chevrolet quickly switched to the 350 in the Z28. The 302 was never an "option" in 1970. (They didn't raise the limit, it was still 5.0 liters or approximately 305 cid, they only allowed the manufacturers to destroke production sized engines for competition.) And as Tex said, they also came with optional automatics for the first time.

If you think Car and Driver is bad, you should see all the mistakes American Musclecars makes on their information.

 

are you on crack? they had a 4.3L turbo also found in turbo trans am

 

umm no...however, you just proved that you are the one on crack
The 89 Turbo Trans AM ha the 3.8L--a buddy of mine has one.
GNs, GNX had 3.8L (Buick) Turbo too. Syclones and Typhoons have 4.3L turbos. (Chevy engine)

Just wait a minute and 10 people will say the same thing

 

if you want to get real technical, the 4.3 and the 3.8 are GENERAL MOTORS engines. There are alot of motors that are cross breaded within gm. The 4.3L turbo and the 3.8L in the gnx and gn are used in only buicks, therefore called a buick motor. The 4.3 was used in pontiacs and gmc's. Not chevy's.

The 4.3 is essentailly a 350 with 2 cylinders hacked off. So maybe the took an oldsmobile 350 and hacked 2 off and now its an oldsmobile engine in the pontiacs and gmc's?

 

Whoa! Sure they are GM engines, it doens't mean they have a single part in common. Car and Driver saying that the 3.8L Turbo V6 was used in the Syclones/Typhoons is totally wrong. It s a different engine! How can you defend that by saying that they are both GM engines.

Heres a history lesson. The 3.8L is an decendant of the 215 Buick V8 from the early 60s'.

The 4.3L is from a 5.7L CHEVY that has 2 clyinders chooped off. Its not an Olds 350.

Furthermore the 4.3L has been used in the Chevy Astro, Chevy Monte Carlo, Chevy Caprice and Chevy 1500 trucks. Wow--those are all Chevys! Imagine that. So much for your claim that they are not used in Chevys.

And I can't think of a Pontiac that ever used the 4.3L V6.

Please go read some books or something. You have no clue what your talking about.

 

Most 5.0's (305's) or 5.7's (350's) that have been shared within GM (between Chevy & GMC trucks, or between Chevy & Pontiac cars) have been Chevy based engines. Same as the 4.3L V6, used in full-size and S-trucks.

I don't think there have been any Pontiac or Oldsmobile engines shared with Chevy though? Only Chevy engines in the others, since the Chevy motors have always been the best!

 

[QUOTE=95_LT1_6SPD] The 4.3L turbo and the 3.8L in the gnx and gn are used in only buicks, therefore called a buick motor.
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So if an engines only used in one GM division--it must be that divsions engine?
Its called a Buick engine because IT IS A BUICK engine. They designed it.

Late 70's Firebirds had Olds 403s and Chevy 350s/305s. BUT they weren't called Pontiac engines and everyone knows they are not.

 

Cadillac Northstar is used only in Cadillacs.

 

I thought I saw a 70, second gen body style. C&D and the owner must have thought it was a 302 but its really a 350.

I love watching American Musclecar.