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Old Dec 10, 2002 | 07:41 PM
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What speakers for door and sail panels???

I want some speakers that i can push LOUD!!! im looking to spend probably $800 on all four speakers. That price not including an amp for them.

So whats in that price range that wont crackle or blend together. My current speakers suck. they just sony x-plods.
Old Dec 11, 2002 | 12:38 AM
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Everyone has a brand they prefer because everyone has different tastes. Some like harsher sounds, some like mellower sounds. Different models from the same brand will also sound very different. You need to go to a shop and listen to the speakers and see what you like.

The obvious brands to look at would be (in no particular order):
boston acoustics
mb quart
focal
infinity
kicker

I would also say that coaxles would be better than seperates/componets IMO.. easier install, more effecient, and better sound staging. You want the sounds to hit your ears at the same time which is why digital time correction is so kick ****. But having another set of speakers/tweeters away from the mids just complicates things. Also you want your highs in front of you so you may not want to use the same speaker for the rear as for the front. In fact a lot of people choose to have no rear fill at all and instead invest that money in really great speakers and an amp for the front and just let the sub fill in the rear. I think the 93's came with only two speakers from the factory. You could also just leave the speakers you have in the rear there and filter them for mids, turn them down/fade to the front and use that as a rear fill also. Really all you need is some low or mid sound coming from behind you to get that "full" sound effect.

hope this clears some stuff up for you,
Old Dec 11, 2002 | 11:17 PM
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I recomend Crystal Mobile Sound Speakers, they make on helluva componet set and can be found for a fairly decent price. I don't personally own these speakers, but have heard them on many occassions and am always in awe.

Lost- How can you say Coaxials are better than Components? I can see where they may be easier to install, but in no way what so ever do they have better sound staging. Thats what components are for, to provide a more flexible choice in where you place your speakers, or where you point your tweeter.

So if I were in your position I would put a nice set of component speakers in the front in kick panels, and a matching set of coaxials in the rear. Many audio experts chose to not use rear speakers at all. Because having just a front sound stage and sub in the rear sounds amazing. But i'm not sure if you have subs so this may not be ideal solution for you either.

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Old Dec 11, 2002 | 11:39 PM
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Components > Coaxils.

$800 will get you a round of some great speakers. With components, you will definatly want an amp on them.

From the user name, I take it you have a Z28. Kinda sucks, youll pretty much have to hack the panels to get decent tweeter placement. I went from a very nice Kenwood (dual mag) co-axil to the ****ty cheap Fosgate components in my Bird (with factory tweeter mount/positioning) and it made a world of difference. Sounds 30 times better, I previously thought the dual mags couldnt be beat.

Check out Focal, MB Quart, and Infinity as suggested above.

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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 02:02 AM
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I personally think componets are over rated but that's just me. I've owned both and I can honestly say that I'd spend the money on a better set of two ways or even three ways if that's the sound you like. It's not worth the extra mounting work IMO for marginal improvements. I see more than a few good speakers that will allow you to adjust the tweeter on the coaxil (so you can point it toward you). If you do go with componets though I would put the tweeters in the stock location or as close to it as possible (not up on the dash or in the a pillar as I see a lot of people do). Point is, keep the tweeter close to the mid. If you just want loudness then componets are way over kill anyways. I think the SQ with a coaxil is superb.. and from your post I don't think that's even the important part. Just get some coaxils with a high rms rating and a sound that you like (from a quality brand of course) AND a QUALITY amp to push those suckers and you will not be sorry. It will be plenty loud. Again, coaxils are also more efficent than seperates which is something that should be important to you if you want it loud BTW.

Again, coming back to what I said in the first post - LISTEN to your choices and see what you like. This means listen to boston and listen to infinity etc. This also means listen to all of the respective brands' different models (read: componet vs. coaxil).

The big point I'm trying to get at here (let me beat it into your head one more time) is LISTEN and decide. What we say will sound good may not necessarily be what you enjoy. It's your ride, you have to drive around in it hence you should choose what YOU think sounds best.

Old Dec 12, 2002 | 06:46 AM
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Originally posted by Lost
I personally think components are over rated but that's just me. I've owned both and I can honestly say that I'd spend the money on a better set of two ways or even three ways if that's the sound you like. It's not worth the extra mounting work IMO for marginal improvements. I see more than a few good speakers that will allow you to adjust the tweeter on the coaxil (so you can point it toward you). If you do go with componets though I would put the tweeters in the stock location or as close to it as possible (not up on the dash or in the a pillar as I see a lot of people do). Point is, keep the tweeter close to the mid. If you just want loudness then componets are way over kill anyways. I think the SQ with a coaxil is superb.. and from your post I don't think that's even the important part. Just get some coaxils with a high rms rating and a sound that you like (from a quality brand of course) AND a QUALITY amp to push those suckers and you will not be sorry. It will be plenty loud. Again, coaxils are also more efficent than seperates which is something that should be important to you if you want it loud BTW.




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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 06:51 AM
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Re: What speakers for door and sail panels???

Originally posted by 16blckz28
I want some speakers that i can push LOUD!!! im looking to spend probably $800 on all four speakers. That price not including an amp for them.

So whats in that price range that wont crackle or blend together. My current speakers suck. they just sony x-plods.
You'd be best to go with components up front and a midrange in the back.

With your budget, there are many good sets to consider.

Focal PolyKevlar's, Rainbow Pro's, A/D/S 3 Series, CDT HD's and OZ Audio Matrix. All of these are top notch sets and won't dissapoint.

If your willing to spend a little more for the front's than the rear's which I would do. I would look into Focal Utopia's, Rainbow Pro Vanadium's, MB Quart QSD's and CDT Eurosport's.
Old Dec 12, 2002 | 11:48 AM
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Re: What speakers for door and sail panels???

Originally posted by 16blckz28
I want some speakers that i can push LOUD!!! im looking to spend probably $800 on all four speakers. That price not including an amp for them.

So whats in that price range that wont crackle or blend together. My current speakers suck. they just sony x-plods.

I know a guy

you know how to ccontact me


he works at your local custom sounds
Old Dec 12, 2002 | 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by Blkout


Your username is fitting.
You know personal attacks are a good way to start a flame war here

Seriously though, this guy has a question, I offer my experience and suggest that, despite my advice, he should listen to some different setups and choose. That doesn't seem like such horrible advice now does it?

Regardless, you don't like what I say so rather than offer good advice you waste everyone's time with a personal attack against me.

So screw off
Old Dec 12, 2002 | 01:02 PM
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You know personal attacks are a good way to start a flame war here

Seriously though, this guy has a question, I offer my experience and suggest that, despite my advice, he should listen to some different setups and choose. That doesn't seem like such horrible advice now does it?

Regardless, you don't like what I say so rather than offer good advice you waste everyone's time with a personal attack against me.

So screw off
Well, I don't think you want a flame war with me, judging by your post, your flamethrower is about 1/4 the size of mine. If you want to debate with me, fine, but be prepared to know your sh*t.

I do not have a problem with you suggesting to him to listen to different setups, I have a problem with your statement that components aren't worth the hassle for a "marginal" improvement. This statement alone tells me that my knowledge of car audio is in a whole other league than yours. Your statement was completely ignorant.

I did not personally attack you, I simply said your username is fitting. If you want to continue to prove that to the others on this forum go ahead and speak up again, lets talk about how components aren't worth it. I'm ready, are you?
Old Dec 12, 2002 | 01:05 PM
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Re: Re: What speakers for door and sail panels???

Originally posted by Blkout
You'd be best to go with components up front and a midrange in the back.

With your budget, there are many good sets to consider.

Focal PolyKevlar's, Rainbow Pro's, A/D/S 3 Series, CDT HD's and OZ Audio Matrix. All of these are top notch sets and won't dissapoint.

If your willing to spend a little more for the front's than the rear's which I would do. I would look into Focal Utopia's, Rainbow Pro Vanadium's, MB Quart QSD's and CDT Eurosport's.

LOST, did you somehow miss this post where I made my recommendations?
Old Dec 12, 2002 | 01:58 PM
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This is gonna be good.
Old Dec 12, 2002 | 05:17 PM
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No, this isn't gonna be good

Blkout, I'm not even going to pretend I know more then you because I probably don't. Heck, you may work in a sound shop for all I know. I only offered my advice based on my personal experiences with more than a couple different setups in a few different vehicles. You don't agree with it, that's fine. Opinions are like a**holes.... everyone has one and they all stink. You seem to know everything and that's great - you should have a lot to contribute to this forum then. Regardless, being a smartass isn't a very good way to make friends . I don't think the idea behind this board is to give people such as yourself an opportunity to belittle others.

That's all I'm going to say.

Have a great day Oh Wise One
Old Dec 12, 2002 | 08:03 PM
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No, this isn't gonna be good

Blkout, I'm not even going to pretend I know more then you because I probably don't. Heck, you may work in a sound shop for all I know. I only offered my advice based on my personal experiences with more than a couple different setups in a few different vehicles. You don't agree with it, that's fine. Opinions are like a**holes.... everyone has one and they all stink. You seem to know everything and that's great - you should have a lot to contribute to this forum then. Regardless, being a smartass isn't a very good way to make friends . I don't think the idea behind this board is to give people such as yourself an opportunity to belittle others.

That's all I'm going to say.

Have a great day Oh Wise One
Will, I apologize. I feel bad about the comments I made earlier, I realize I know more than you do about car audio and I should not have belittled you because of it. I remember what it was like when I didn't know that much and I thought many of the same thigns you do, I have learned so much since then and I look at car audio differently than I used to when I was younger and less experienced. Its easy for me to pick out discrepancies like what you posted and make you look bad doing it, but I realize that your not learning anything from me by insulting you.

I meant to post an apology earlier before you made your last post but I did have time. I am not here to make friends though to be honest with you, I hardly ever post here as a matter of fact, I just happened to be surfing the forums and noticed your post. I should not have come across they way I did, I know it sounded harsh.

Anyway, I apologize again.
Old Dec 13, 2002 | 10:28 AM
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Re: Re: What speakers for door and sail panels???

Originally posted by eddiezlt1
I know a guy

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he works at your local custom sounds
I know a few guys there I really just wanted an idea of what i wanted before i walked into there.

Now i have some options. Thanks for all the great inputs guys. Though i really dont know if a componet system is right for me. I really dont wanna start hacking the interior up at all. Because im fixing to install a brand new interior, including everything from dash, carpet, t-tops, console, seats everything. So i really dont wanna cut into any of it.

But if i have to in order to get the sound i want then well i guess ill have no choice.



BTW do they make lighter boxes? i need to keep my weight down for da street racin



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