Performance Wars: Dodge vs Ford (GM, AWOL)
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Performance Wars: Dodge vs Ford (GM, AWOL)
This is worthy of the 60s muscle shootouts! 500 horsepower, comming soon to a truck near you.
http://www.autonews.com/news.cms?newsId=4565
Remember that post I made a few days ago about LS1s soon being outdone by family cars? Unless you visit the aftermarket store, soon trucks may lay down the smack on LS1 F-bods on the strip.
And yes, it appears GM is going to treat this as they treated the SUV craze in the 1st place. Sitting it out till the end, before going into overkill.
http://www.autonews.com/news.cms?newsId=4565
Remember that post I made a few days ago about LS1s soon being outdone by family cars? Unless you visit the aftermarket store, soon trucks may lay down the smack on LS1 F-bods on the strip.
And yes, it appears GM is going to treat this as they treated the SUV craze in the 1st place. Sitting it out till the end, before going into overkill.
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Also, want to use this thread to mention that DCX is going to produce the Compass, M80 pickup, a new Jeep Scrambler, and some version of the Razor (supposedly very different from the concept) and the Avenger. This according to a recent meeting with select major dealers.
Compass, M80, and Avenger is supposed to share the same chassis. No word on the Razor's.
Compass, M80, and Avenger is supposed to share the same chassis. No word on the Razor's.
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How much do I want a regular cab 395 HP Silverado SS? 
Too much, but GM just keeps teasing with sweet *** concepts then executes with the worst possible Silverado SS configuration.
Acutually will 395 HP even do it? Both Dodge and Ford are touting 500 HP, for the SS to compete it would need at least 450 hp, but I dont think the General would have any problems making that horsepower. Of course, then it would have the highest rated output for any Chevy, unless we get a ultra high HP Vette.
Or I could just say **** it, GM just give me a no frills SS and I'll make it damn fast myself
Too much, but GM just keeps teasing with sweet *** concepts then executes with the worst possible Silverado SS configuration.Acutually will 395 HP even do it? Both Dodge and Ford are touting 500 HP, for the SS to compete it would need at least 450 hp, but I dont think the General would have any problems making that horsepower. Of course, then it would have the highest rated output for any Chevy, unless we get a ultra high HP Vette.
Or I could just say **** it, GM just give me a no frills SS and I'll make it damn fast myself
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So this fall Dodge will have 2 vehicles with more HP than any thing at GM
Ram SRT-10 = 500HP
Viper = 500HP
and Ford will have 3 (not counting Aston Martins)
GT40 = 500HP
Lightning = 500HP
Cobra = 420HP (I know it is factory rated at 390 but every one that dinos it gets like 388HP at the wheels 425ish at the motor)
GM is Dead Dead last to the 500HP race, I would have expected more from the WORLDS biggest car company.
Lets not forget Chevy is getting crushed in the sport compact maket by just about everyone but Kia
Ram SRT-10 = 500HP
Viper = 500HP
and Ford will have 3 (not counting Aston Martins)
GT40 = 500HP
Lightning = 500HP
Cobra = 420HP (I know it is factory rated at 390 but every one that dinos it gets like 388HP at the wheels 425ish at the motor)
GM is Dead Dead last to the 500HP race, I would have expected more from the WORLDS biggest car company.
Lets not forget Chevy is getting crushed in the sport compact maket by just about everyone but Kia
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is that the production dodge truck???what happened to it from concept to production????it looks like crap,it looks homemade,like some high school kid put a ugly body kit on his truck.i hope to god that rear wing is optional.c'mon GM,where's the regular cab SS and please god,don't change a thing from the concept!!!who can we e-mail and bother about getting the regular cab SS made????
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Originally posted by Derek Smalls
is that the production dodge truck???what happened to it from concept to production????it looks like crap,it looks homemade,like some high school kid put a ugly body kit on his truck.i hope to god that rear wing is optional.c'mon GM,where's the regular cab SS and please god,don't change a thing from the concept!!!who can we e-mail and bother about getting the regular cab SS made????
is that the production dodge truck???what happened to it from concept to production????it looks like crap,it looks homemade,like some high school kid put a ugly body kit on his truck.i hope to god that rear wing is optional.c'mon GM,where's the regular cab SS and please god,don't change a thing from the concept!!!who can we e-mail and bother about getting the regular cab SS made????
It's the concept, lowered, and red instead of black.
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Oh goodie, another GM-whining thread. It's nice DCX has the SRT10. And yes, GM currently has no comparable product. So what? I just can't get worked up much about muscle trucks, with their horrible MPG, impractical 2- and 3-person seating, lack of t-tops/sunroof, and blocky pickup profile.
It's a bummer the FBody is on hiatus. But speaking of AWOL... where's DCX's affordable 2+2 V8 RWD performance coupe?
At least Pontiac has the GTO on the way.
It's a bummer the FBody is on hiatus. But speaking of AWOL... where's DCX's affordable 2+2 V8 RWD performance coupe?
At least Pontiac has the GTO on the way.
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Originally posted by BigDarknFast
Oh goodie, another GM-whining thread. It's nice DCX has the SRT10. And yes, GM currently has no comparable product. So what? I just can't get worked up much about muscle trucks, with their horrible MPG, impractical 2- and 3-person seating, lack of t-tops/sunroof, and blocky pickup profile.
It's a bummer the FBody is on hiatus. But speaking of AWOL... where's DCX's affordable 2+2 V8 RWD performance coupe? At least Pontiac has the GTO on the way.
Oh goodie, another GM-whining thread. It's nice DCX has the SRT10. And yes, GM currently has no comparable product. So what? I just can't get worked up much about muscle trucks, with their horrible MPG, impractical 2- and 3-person seating, lack of t-tops/sunroof, and blocky pickup profile.
It's a bummer the FBody is on hiatus. But speaking of AWOL... where's DCX's affordable 2+2 V8 RWD performance coupe?
At least Pontiac has the GTO on the way.
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Originally posted by BigDarknFast
Oh goodie, another GM-whining thread. It's nice DCX has the SRT10. And yes, GM currently has no comparable product. So what? I just can't get worked up much about muscle trucks, with their horrible MPG, impractical 2- and 3-person seating, lack of t-tops/sunroof, and blocky pickup profile.
It's a bummer the FBody is on hiatus. But speaking of AWOL... where's DCX's affordable 2+2 V8 RWD performance coupe? At least Pontiac has the GTO on the way.
Oh goodie, another GM-whining thread. It's nice DCX has the SRT10. And yes, GM currently has no comparable product. So what? I just can't get worked up much about muscle trucks, with their horrible MPG, impractical 2- and 3-person seating, lack of t-tops/sunroof, and blocky pickup profile.
It's a bummer the FBody is on hiatus. But speaking of AWOL... where's DCX's affordable 2+2 V8 RWD performance coupe?
At least Pontiac has the GTO on the way.
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DCX will have a RWD coupe soon (probally about the same time as Camaro). It's suppose to be the last of the LX cars comming out, and will be priced "5-10% above comparable Mustangs".
DCX will have a RWD coupe soon (probally about the same time as Camaro). It's suppose to be the last of the LX cars comming out, and will be priced "5-10% above comparable Mustangs".
Any word on displacement of the Hemi for cars? are the rumors of 6.1L still kicking around?
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More news from Thecarconnection.com:
"LIGHTING STRIKING AGAIN
Promising power of “500-horsepower-plus,” Ford rolled out the production version of its F-150 Lightning pickup at McCormick Place on Thursday. The big truck uses an unusual “SuperCooler” system to draw some extra punch out of its supercharged 5.4-liter V-8. A traditional intercooler uses a separate, air-cooled radiator. Instead, the SuperCooler uses the Lightning’s air conditioning system to chill a small storage tank of coolant to about 30 degrees Fahrenheit, resulting in an even denser air charge during peak acceleration. According to Coletti, it “acts like a nitrous (oxide) injection system,” generating an extra 50 to 60 horsepower. And that, Ford claims, should help maintain Lightning as the world’s fastest production pickup.”
DODGE WANTS TO RAM THE COMPETITION
Being king-of-the-truck-hill may be the conventional wisdom at Ford, but DaimlerChrysler’s Dodge division is all about “defying convention,” declared marketing czar Jim Schroer, as the new Ram SRT-10 screeched onto the stage. The production version of the high-performance Ram pickup first shown a year ago, it boasts a V-10 engine lifted whole from the two-seat Dodge Viper sports car. That should be enough to launch the Ram SRT-10 from 0-60 mph in “a hair over five seconds,” and take it all the way up to a 150-mph top speed. Developed by Chrysler Group’s new Performance Vehicle Operations, Schroer insisted it will grab the mantle of “world’s fastest truck.” But it is also “nimble and agile,” he emphasized, reflecting the attention paid to its suspension. The truck rides on 22-inch wheels, and features a six-speed manual also lifted from the Viper, but with a custom Hurst linkage and shifter. The SRT-10 not only weighs in with 500 cubic inches, 500 horsepower and 525 lb-ft of torque, but a full 508 watts of audio power delivered through a dozen speakers and a 10-inch subwoofer. “The only thing not included,” added the glib Schroer, “is the insurance payment for your neighbor’s windows.” Look for production of somewhat more than 2000 of the trucks annually, following its introduction late this year. Company officials wouldn’t provide a final price, though sources suggest it will be “in the range” of $50,000.
Promising power of “500-horsepower-plus,” Ford rolled out the production version of its F-150 Lightning pickup at McCormick Place on Thursday. The big truck uses an unusual “SuperCooler” system to draw some extra punch out of its supercharged 5.4-liter V-8. A traditional intercooler uses a separate, air-cooled radiator. Instead, the SuperCooler uses the Lightning’s air conditioning system to chill a small storage tank of coolant to about 30 degrees Fahrenheit, resulting in an even denser air charge during peak acceleration. According to Coletti, it “acts like a nitrous (oxide) injection system,” generating an extra 50 to 60 horsepower. And that, Ford claims, should help maintain Lightning as the world’s fastest production pickup.”
DODGE WANTS TO RAM THE COMPETITION
Being king-of-the-truck-hill may be the conventional wisdom at Ford, but DaimlerChrysler’s Dodge division is all about “defying convention,” declared marketing czar Jim Schroer, as the new Ram SRT-10 screeched onto the stage. The production version of the high-performance Ram pickup first shown a year ago, it boasts a V-10 engine lifted whole from the two-seat Dodge Viper sports car. That should be enough to launch the Ram SRT-10 from 0-60 mph in “a hair over five seconds,” and take it all the way up to a 150-mph top speed. Developed by Chrysler Group’s new Performance Vehicle Operations, Schroer insisted it will grab the mantle of “world’s fastest truck.” But it is also “nimble and agile,” he emphasized, reflecting the attention paid to its suspension. The truck rides on 22-inch wheels, and features a six-speed manual also lifted from the Viper, but with a custom Hurst linkage and shifter. The SRT-10 not only weighs in with 500 cubic inches, 500 horsepower and 525 lb-ft of torque, but a full 508 watts of audio power delivered through a dozen speakers and a 10-inch subwoofer. “The only thing not included,” added the glib Schroer, “is the insurance payment for your neighbor’s windows.” Look for production of somewhat more than 2000 of the trucks annually, following its introduction late this year. Company officials wouldn’t provide a final price, though sources suggest it will be “in the range” of $50,000.
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Originally posted by BigDarknFast
Oh goodie, another GM-whining thread. It's nice DCX has the SRT10. And yes, GM currently has no comparable product. So what? I just can't get worked up much about muscle trucks, with their horrible MPG, impractical 2- and 3-person seating, lack of t-tops/sunroof, and blocky pickup profile.
It's a bummer the FBody is on hiatus. But speaking of AWOL... where's DCX's affordable 2+2 V8 RWD performance coupe? At least Pontiac has the GTO on the way.
Oh goodie, another GM-whining thread. It's nice DCX has the SRT10. And yes, GM currently has no comparable product. So what? I just can't get worked up much about muscle trucks, with their horrible MPG, impractical 2- and 3-person seating, lack of t-tops/sunroof, and blocky pickup profile.
It's a bummer the FBody is on hiatus. But speaking of AWOL... where's DCX's affordable 2+2 V8 RWD performance coupe?
At least Pontiac has the GTO on the way.