New Mustang site is up
#46
I was one of those who SCREAMED that question, and I think this does answer the question.
And the answer is that it looks like it's been cut up with a hacksaw and put back together with what was left...
#48
Manual to manual, though, a Shelby GT Mustang is about on par with a GTO to 60, and much less than a half second behind in the quarter. Mustang has the better shifter, so it could very well be a driver's race.
Once you get past the quarter, GTO WILL walk away from the Mustang GT or anything with the Shelby name on it that doesn't have a snake on it's fenders & grille.
#49
Exactly. Auto to auto it goes solidly to the GTO, manuals are closer I'm sure. And it really is "moms". She doesn't have it anymore, but it was an '06, that dark red color they had just that one year w/ the A4. Pretty color, but she ended up retired out in the country and needed an SUV. I would have bought it from her if it was an M6.
Last edited by CLEAN; 11-18-2008 at 04:16 PM.
#50
#51
So the comparisons in the magazines will line up like this:
Loaded 2010 Mustang GT manual versus loaded 2010 Camaro SS manual. Around $32K MSRPs.
I predict curb weights of 3610 and 3940 pounds (as tested models). They will complain about the weight of the Camaro and about the live axle in the Mustang. The Camaro will out-accelerate the Mustang, and EPA mileage will be a tie, due to the 6 speed and skip-shift in the Camaro.
The Camaro will win by a nose.
If the Challenger R/T is added to the comparo, it will weigh 4100 pounds, and will be last in acceleration, but it will do well in fuel economy due to the VVT on the new engine. It'll be in last place.
If you switch to autos from manuals, then the Mustang will do relatively worse, but I don't think we'll see tests of autos, even though the autos outsell the manuals (IIRC).
Loaded 2010 Mustang GT manual versus loaded 2010 Camaro SS manual. Around $32K MSRPs.
I predict curb weights of 3610 and 3940 pounds (as tested models). They will complain about the weight of the Camaro and about the live axle in the Mustang. The Camaro will out-accelerate the Mustang, and EPA mileage will be a tie, due to the 6 speed and skip-shift in the Camaro.
The Camaro will win by a nose.
If the Challenger R/T is added to the comparo, it will weigh 4100 pounds, and will be last in acceleration, but it will do well in fuel economy due to the VVT on the new engine. It'll be in last place.
If you switch to autos from manuals, then the Mustang will do relatively worse, but I don't think we'll see tests of autos, even though the autos outsell the manuals (IIRC).
#52
The Camaro, to me, looks more custom, more one off. A custom job in questionable taste, but custom nonetheless, and I think I prefer the latter.
#53
Of course, but I specifically quoted a HERTZ Shelby vs a GTO. All Hertz's were autos, as was the GTO I compared it to. GTO is noticably quicker, that's all I'm saying, nothing more. The quote I commented on said that the LS2 GTO should be faster than the current GT, not the shelby. I added that the Shelby (by definition an A5, 3.73s, exhaust, tune, and CAI), couldn't hang w/ the Goat. Now a M5 Shelby GT, maybe, but that's a different argument altogether.
Last edited by CLEAN; 11-18-2008 at 07:58 PM.
#57
Ford's made a good transition IMO, with the new Mustang. It looks fresh, leaner and more aerodynamic, which will enhance appeal with MPG-conscious buyers, especially women. Interior amenities, like the ambient lighting, same thing. It's also a step upscale, such as with the nav in dash. It's going to be a worthy competitor for the Camaro.
#58
So the comparisons in the magazines will line up like this:
Loaded 2010 Mustang GT manual versus loaded 2010 Camaro SS manual. Around $32K MSRPs.
I predict curb weights of 3610 and 3940 pounds (as tested models). They will complain about the weight of the Camaro and about the live axle in the Mustang. The Camaro will out-accelerate the Mustang, and EPA mileage will be a tie, due to the 6 speed and skip-shift in the Camaro.
The Camaro will win by a nose.
If the Challenger R/T is added to the comparo, it will weigh 4100 pounds, and will be last in acceleration, but it will do well in fuel economy due to the VVT on the new engine. It'll be in last place.
If you switch to autos from manuals, then the Mustang will do relatively worse, but I don't think we'll see tests of autos, even though the autos outsell the manuals (IIRC).
Loaded 2010 Mustang GT manual versus loaded 2010 Camaro SS manual. Around $32K MSRPs.
I predict curb weights of 3610 and 3940 pounds (as tested models). They will complain about the weight of the Camaro and about the live axle in the Mustang. The Camaro will out-accelerate the Mustang, and EPA mileage will be a tie, due to the 6 speed and skip-shift in the Camaro.
The Camaro will win by a nose.
If the Challenger R/T is added to the comparo, it will weigh 4100 pounds, and will be last in acceleration, but it will do well in fuel economy due to the VVT on the new engine. It'll be in last place.
If you switch to autos from manuals, then the Mustang will do relatively worse, but I don't think we'll see tests of autos, even though the autos outsell the manuals (IIRC).
I think they'll complain about the Camaro's weight as a number and say you can feel some of its "heft," but add that it really hides its weight well (a feat GM also has pulled off, apparently, with the CTS-V) when it comes to handling (and braking).
The Challenger won't even be in the ballpark in terms of handling. A look at the most recent "Lightning Lap" shows that the 260 hp Cobalt SS turbo handed an SRT8 Challenger its hindquarters around the track. But the Challenger will trump them all when it comes to interior (and trunk?) space.
#60
So the comparisons in the magazines will line up like this:
Loaded 2010 Mustang GT manual versus loaded 2010 Camaro SS manual. Around $32K MSRPs.
I predict curb weights of 3610 and 3940 pounds (as tested models). They will complain about the weight of the Camaro and about the live axle in the Mustang. The Camaro will out-accelerate the Mustang, and EPA mileage will be a tie, due to the 6 speed and skip-shift in the Camaro.
The Camaro will win by a nose.
If the Challenger R/T is added to the comparo, it will weigh 4100 pounds, and will be last in acceleration, but it will do well in fuel economy due to the VVT on the new engine. It'll be in last place.
If you switch to autos from manuals, then the Mustang will do relatively worse, but I don't think we'll see tests of autos, even though the autos outsell the manuals (IIRC).
Loaded 2010 Mustang GT manual versus loaded 2010 Camaro SS manual. Around $32K MSRPs.
I predict curb weights of 3610 and 3940 pounds (as tested models). They will complain about the weight of the Camaro and about the live axle in the Mustang. The Camaro will out-accelerate the Mustang, and EPA mileage will be a tie, due to the 6 speed and skip-shift in the Camaro.
The Camaro will win by a nose.
If the Challenger R/T is added to the comparo, it will weigh 4100 pounds, and will be last in acceleration, but it will do well in fuel economy due to the VVT on the new engine. It'll be in last place.
If you switch to autos from manuals, then the Mustang will do relatively worse, but I don't think we'll see tests of autos, even though the autos outsell the manuals (IIRC).