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Old 10-16-2002, 08:01 PM
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HSV's site is now displaying the new concept car developed by HRT (Holden Racing Team). It is based on the Monaro, and i'm sure some of you would love this thing as a GTO Judge
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I wouldn't mind having the 7.0 in the Judge or maybe a version of the next Camaro... 427 small block...
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Old 10-16-2002, 08:39 PM
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Personally, I think the Monaro would be just fine with 7.0 liter engine - the current "small blocks" seem out of place in a big, heavy coupe. This car has the potential to be a later-day Hemi-Charger. Better yet, ditch the Tremac 6-speed for a 4L80E slushbox - I would definately buy this car as a bargain basement Bentley. If this model makes it stateside, count me in.

The Judge nameplate is too much of a dated reference to really make an impact in todays market. Who even remembers "Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In?" I would rather see it as a simple "GTO 427." Bring it on!

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Would this HRT 427 outperform a Vette?
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A Monaro with this engine should be able to take a Z06 pretty easily...
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Thumbs up high limits can be moved...

Originally posted by AnthonyHSV
Would this HRT 427 outperform a Vette?
Ahh yes, this chap has brought up a point. While I don't think GM minds if another car in it's stable is a touch quicker than the Vette once in a while (ex: the TT Trans Am or the Regal GNX), I don't know how they would react to a car that is "substantially" quicker, and almost equally as refined.

While the TT Trans Am and GNX were faster, they did not possess the electronics, suspensions, appointments, or interior level that the Vette did. The Holden DOES have a much higher level of refinements, maybe not equaling or passing the Vette, but d@mn sure alot closer than the others previously mentioned. And then pricing comes into play too.

Regardless - that 427 just looks AWESOME... hands-down.
It would definitely raise the bar if it makes it here to the States, IMO.
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here is a better pic of the engine bay.



you can check out some pics of the other cars at the sms here.
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HOLY ****!!! Look at these specs!! (Copied from the website)

What is 95 RON gas equiv to here? 11.5 Compression!!
This thing belongs on the racetracks!! Overkill!

• Engine C5R 7.0 litre (427c.i.)
Type: V8 (90 degrees), ohv, 16v
Capacity: 7.0 litres
Bore/Stroke: 104.6/101.6mm
Compression ratio: 11.5:1
Recommended fuel: 95 RON
• CNC machined C5R heads with high flow, carbon fibre intake manifold
• Twin carbon fibre air boxes with cold air intake
• 9.0 litre capacity 4 stage dry sump system
• 4 into 2 into 1 big bore extractors and stainless steel exhaust system
• Heavy duty clutch
• 6 speed T56 M12 close ratio, triple-synchro
gearbox
Gear ratios: 2.97/2.07/1.43/1.00/0.08/0.62
Unique 80 litre aluminium fuel tank
• V8 Super Car tail shaft
• Upgraded half-shafts and C-V joints
• 4.11:1 9" Torsen Gleeson Limited Slip Differential with Magnesium housing
• Differential cooler and pump
• Power steering cooler
• Engine oil cooler

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The 1st thing I noticed was the exhaust system. Monaro's rear fuel tank is off set, so dual exhaust w/o being modified is a no go. But GTO is supposed to have duals.

Knowing how close HSV works with Holden's developments, I wonder how much of the GTO (not the engine itself) is incorperated in this HRT.
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MMMMMMmmmmmmm... 427......
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Yum.... C5-R engine and and drivetrain crammed into a Monaro....
427 C5-R
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Originally posted by Burmite
Yum.... C5-R engine and and drivetrain crammed into a Monaro....
427 C5-R
Got a feeling that GTO/Monaro is going to be GM's performance ideas concept car for magazines & car shows that camaro used to be.
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Intake manifold... so scary...
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bathroom time for Chuck!.
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Originally posted by guionM
The 1st thing I noticed was the exhaust system. Monaro's rear fuel tank is off set, so dual exhaust w/o being modified is a no go. But GTO is supposed to have duals.

Knowing how close HSV works with Holden's developments, I wonder how much of the GTO (not the engine itself) is incorperated in this HRT.
I hope the race proven perf parts for the Monaro and this HRT bolt right up to the GTO.. I dont' see reason why not...

Wonder if they changed the IRS design in the back? I heard from a goldfinch on a treebranch, the camber change out back with suspension travel in the rear is noticable with wide rubber.

Now THIS is what Chevy/GM Performance Divison should be doing with the Vette and Camaro...
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