Some of you may have already seen some comparison tests done by Ford... specifically the one where they drive over the rough surface and compare frame bounce. I have too, but these are new... some new tests added and involve all of the competition's latest trucks.
http://www.fordvehicles.com/2009f150...3016.PLATFORMA
http://www.fordvehicles.com/2009f150...3016.PLATFORMA
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Like other recent ford products (all nice solid vehicles imo), it lacks in the engine department when compared to the competition.
Top engine offerings
*Silverado - 367hp 6.0L (403hp 6.2L available on LTZ crewcab)
*Ram -390hp 5.7L
*Tundra - 381hp 5.7L
*F150 - 310hp 5.4L
The SVT raptor showcased the new 400+hp 6.2L v8, but i think that engine won't be offered in the regular F150's. It's probably for use in the HD trucks, SVT raptor, and the Navigator.
Top engine offerings
*Silverado - 367hp 6.0L (403hp 6.2L available on LTZ crewcab)
*Ram -390hp 5.7L
*Tundra - 381hp 5.7L
*F150 - 310hp 5.4L
The SVT raptor showcased the new 400+hp 6.2L v8, but i think that engine won't be offered in the regular F150's. It's probably for use in the HD trucks, SVT raptor, and the Navigator.
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I don't know much about the trucks but ...
The Ford had side-steps (I gather was the top range model) and the others were the base versions of each model? The top range trucks usually come with engineering goodies to separate themselves from the lower standard types. I'm assuming that was the case here.
Yeah, I'm bored!
The Ford had side-steps (I gather was the top range model) and the others were the base versions of each model? The top range trucks usually come with engineering goodies to separate themselves from the lower standard types. I'm assuming that was the case here.
Yeah, I'm bored!
Yeah they definitely left out any sort of acceleration test and for a very good reason too, because all of those trucks would smoke the F150 no matter how you designed the test.
I drove a friend of mine's 07 F150 work truck extended cab with the 5.4L and was amazed how slow it felt... I was convinced it had to be a smaller engine and started to wonder if they were still making the 4.6L V8 that they used to make optional in the old F150s.
The only thing that would affect those tests that changes within the model lineup is the suspension package... like Z71 or whatever. Hopefully they were fair enough that if they put the upgraded suspension package on the Ford, they did on the others as well.
I have no doubt that the tests were fairly carefully selected and engineered to make sure the F150 came out on top and that there could just as easily be other tests run by the other manufacturers with less favorable results for the F150. That doesn't make these tests not interesting though... just consider it like listening to one political candidate make their case and realize that the other guys have their own case to make as well.
I drove a friend of mine's 07 F150 work truck extended cab with the 5.4L and was amazed how slow it felt... I was convinced it had to be a smaller engine and started to wonder if they were still making the 4.6L V8 that they used to make optional in the old F150s.
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The Ford had side-steps (I gather was the top range model) and the others were the base versions of each model? The top range trucks usually come with engineering goodies to separate themselves from the lower standard types. I'm assuming that was the case here.
Yeah, I'm bored!
Side steps don't necessarily mean anything.Originally Posted by SSbaby
I don't know much about the trucks but ...The Ford had side-steps (I gather was the top range model) and the others were the base versions of each model? The top range trucks usually come with engineering goodies to separate themselves from the lower standard types. I'm assuming that was the case here.
Yeah, I'm bored!
The only thing that would affect those tests that changes within the model lineup is the suspension package... like Z71 or whatever. Hopefully they were fair enough that if they put the upgraded suspension package on the Ford, they did on the others as well.
I have no doubt that the tests were fairly carefully selected and engineered to make sure the F150 came out on top and that there could just as easily be other tests run by the other manufacturers with less favorable results for the F150. That doesn't make these tests not interesting though... just consider it like listening to one political candidate make their case and realize that the other guys have their own case to make as well.

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They are not base models. They seem pretty comparable as far as pricing goes (all msrp for around $31k base).
* Ram SLT Crewcab 5.7L Bighorn 4x2
* Silverado LT1 Crewcab 5.3 4x2
* Tundra SR5 Crewcab 5.7 4x2
* F150 XLT Supercrew 4.6 4x2
* Ram SLT Crewcab 5.7L Bighorn 4x2
* Silverado LT1 Crewcab 5.3 4x2
* Tundra SR5 Crewcab 5.7 4x2
* F150 XLT Supercrew 4.6 4x2
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Oh so they do still make the 4.6.Originally Posted by Gold_Rush
* F150 XLT Supercrew 4.6 4x2
I wonder why they decided to use the 4.6? Maybe because it's lighter so it would help out a bit in the handling tests, plus better fuel economy?
Just uneducated speculation.
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That use the 3v that the Mustang has. 292HPOriginally Posted by Threxx
I was convinced it had to be a smaller engine and started to wonder if they were still making the 4.6L V8 that they used to make optional in the old F150s.
The new 5.4L also puts out 390 tq and 320HP on E85
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I wonder why they decided to use the 4.6? Maybe because it's lighter so it would help out a bit in the handling tests, plus better fuel economy?
Just uneducated speculation.
Like z28x said, its the 3v 4.6 which makes 292hp. Originally Posted by Threxx
Oh so they do still make the 4.6.I wonder why they decided to use the 4.6? Maybe because it's lighter so it would help out a bit in the handling tests, plus better fuel economy?
Just uneducated speculation.
Good question. I'm guessing fuel economy played a role in that choice.
F-150 Crewcab - 4.6 is rated at 15/20, 5.4 is rated at 14/20.
Tundra SR5 Crewmax: 4.7L gets 14/17 while the 5.7L gets 14/18
Ram Crewcab - both 4.7 and 5.7L v8's gets around 14/20.
Silverado Crewcab- 4.8 gets 14/19 with 4spd auto and 14/20 with 6spd. I believe the 5.3 which they tested gets around the same 14/20.
So it seems using the larger engine in those trucks didn't hurt them (it actually helped the toyota) so using the base v8 engines from those trucks wouldn't have made that much of a difference. But using the 4.6 instead of the 5.4 did give the Ford an advantage in city driving.
Don't know about the weights or the handling.
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My '04 F150 pulls my Camaro on a heavy *** trailer like it's not even back there and gets 13-14 MPG while doing it (highway). It has the 5.4L
Who cares how "fast" a truck is.. when you use a truck what it's really meant for anyways...
The trailer stayed dead straight the whole trip on the highway, and the truck rode smooth as butta.
Who cares how "fast" a truck is.. when you use a truck what it's really meant for anyways...
The trailer stayed dead straight the whole trip on the highway, and the truck rode smooth as butta.
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Who cares how "fast" a truck is.. when you use a truck what it's really meant for anyways...
The trailer stayed dead straight the whole trip on the highway, and the truck rode smooth as butta.
Regardless of how you're driving it, a truck with power to spare and decent get up and go is nicer to drive than one that feels lethargic all the time and wouldn't have any power to spare if you needed it.Originally Posted by Javier97Z28
My '04 F150 pulls my Camaro on a heavy *** trailer like it's not even back there and gets 13-14 MPG while doing it (highway). It has the 5.4LWho cares how "fast" a truck is.. when you use a truck what it's really meant for anyways...
The trailer stayed dead straight the whole trip on the highway, and the truck rode smooth as butta.
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Same with the upcoming fusions midlevel 3.0L v6. It makes 240hp with regular and 250hp with E85.Originally Posted by Threxx
Wow.. it does? I've never heard of an engine making more power with E85...