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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 09:02 AM
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Dodge Caliber to offer awd...

So does that mean an awd SRT-4?

Caliber also getting new 4-cylinders and CVT
http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=102902

Dodge’s upcoming 2007 Caliber, the replacement for the aging Neon, will be powered by DaimlerChrysler’s newly-developed four-cylinder engine family.

On the Caliber, the new engines will be mated to a continuously variable transmission and an electronic all-wheel drive system.

Engine choices for the U.S. market will include: a 1.8-liter rated at 140 hp, a 2.0-liter producing 150 hp and the top-of-the-line 2.4-liter generating 170 hp. A 2.0-liter turbodiesel has also been developed, but it will not initially be available for the U.S. The result of a joint venture between DCX, Hyundai and Mitsubishi, the engines feature dual variable valve timing and are more fuel efficient, the automaker says.

All displacement options will be available for the Caliber and will also power other next-generation DCX vehicles. Turbocharged variants are rumored to be in development.

In addition to the new engines, an all-new continuously variable transmission, dubbed CVT2, will shift the Caliber. The CVT will offer an autostick option which will allow drivers to manually select the six simulated gears. DCX says the new transmission will help improve Caliber’s performance (especially in the 30-60 mph area) and fuel economy over a traditional automatic.

The CVT will transmit the power to an electronic all-wheel drive system. The system drives the front wheels unless it determines the rear wheels need grip. Then the torque output will vary automatically based on traction conditions via an electronically controlled coupling. The system is fully active from 25-65 mph to help ensure optimum handling.
Old Aug 8, 2005 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by jrp4uc
So does that mean an awd SRT-4?

Caliber also getting new 4-cylinders and CVT
http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=102902
Its based off the next lancer platform so thats not suprising at all. This is why the HHR needs AWD.
Old Aug 8, 2005 | 09:09 AM
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Re: Dodge Caliber to offer awd...

Thank goodness its not being called a 'Cuda. Whew...
Old Aug 8, 2005 | 09:45 AM
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Re: Dodge Caliber to offer awd...

I don't really know what to think about "CVT" transmissions with Constant Varying engine speeds.

These type of transmissions work well in Combines were there is a Constant Engine Speed and the Transmission totally controls speed (not the engine RPM).

Having two Continuously Variable machines in Series seems like ONE too many to me and a waste of money.

But maybe there is something I don't know about them???
Old Aug 8, 2005 | 09:48 AM
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They're just a lot more efficient because you keep the engine in the rpm range where its volumetric efficiency is the greatest. Problem to this point is they don't hold a lot of power.

I think CVT is just one more technology that can be put to use to increase MPG ratings in the next few years.
Old Aug 8, 2005 | 10:25 AM
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Is the version of the Delta platform that the HHR is on capable of handling AWD?
Old Aug 8, 2005 | 06:52 PM
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Re: Dodge Caliber to offer awd...

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Is the version of the Delta platform that the HHR is on capable of handling AWD?
I hope so, it will sell a heck of alot better than just fwd. Anybody else think ion redline and cobalt ss needs awd too? That would be pretty inviting for alot of people in the northeast region.
Old Aug 8, 2005 | 07:30 PM
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Re: Dodge Caliber to offer awd...

AWD on the cobalt ss and redline ion would definitely be a perk. IMO, they need something like that to compete better with the SRT-4 which is faster and cheaper.
Old Aug 8, 2005 | 07:33 PM
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AWD on the cobalt ss and redline ion would definitely be a perk. IMO, they need something like that to compete better with the SRT-4 which is faster and cheaper.

Current models do that. AWD would be WRX/EVO competition.
Old Aug 8, 2005 | 09:59 PM
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Re: Dodge Caliber to offer awd...

Why go through the trouble of offering a 140hp and 150hp engine? Will anybody say 140 isnt enough but 170 is way too much, give me the 150hp engine.
Old Aug 9, 2005 | 03:13 AM
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Re: Dodge Caliber to offer awd...

Originally Posted by falchulk
Current models do that. AWD would be WRX/EVO competition.
Yeah, but if GM did AWD with the Cobalt the price would likely be around the mid $30K range like the WRX/EVO! I'll just find an early 90's AWD Talon/Eclipse/Laser to play with.
Old Aug 9, 2005 | 08:44 AM
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Why go through the trouble of offering a 140hp and 150hp engine? Will anybody say 140 isnt enough but 170 is way too much, give me the 150hp engine.

20hp makes no diffrence in driving dynamics whatsoever.
Old Aug 10, 2005 | 12:35 AM
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Re: Dodge Caliber to offer awd...

I was talking with a DCX designer a while back and he mentioned a small truck being built off the same platform. He mentioned without getting into great detail that the platform will spring many different types of cars
Old Aug 10, 2005 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Supergrobo82
I was talking with a DCX designer a while back and he mentioned a small truck being built off the same platform. He mentioned without getting into great detail that the platform will spring many different types of cars
I have heard talk of the M80 concept from a couple years ago going on this platform. I dont see it happening though.
Old Aug 10, 2005 | 11:25 AM
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Re: Dodge Caliber to offer awd...

M80 was created with an eye towards production, but in the end Chrysler chose not to invest the money to make it happen.

I'm not sure of the reasons because I didn't follow it as closely as I do other things, but I believe it had to do with the assembly side. Either regarding creating a new plant or expanding an existing one which was decided wasn't worth it, or not being able to tie it in with another platform's assembly line.

Don't quote me on that though.



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